Recruiting is No Joke
Joel Lalgee
Welcome to "Recruiting is No Joke" with your host, Joel Lalgee – the realest recruiter. Get ready for raw, no-BS conversations that delve into the latest trends in the recruiting space. Joel holds nothing back, providing a fresh and entertaining take on the world of recruitment. With no filter, Joel gives you an inside look at the industry like never before. If you're craving to be part of the conversation with leaders in the field, this podcast is your ticket. Discover the ins and outs of talent acquisition trends, hear the captivating stories of top talent thought leaders, and gain valuable perspectives on current industry happenings. You will also learn what talent and HR leaders actually care about, bridging the gap between job seekers and talent leaders. With a decade of recruiting experience, Joel's content has made waves, generating over 200 million views. Joel brings you insights that matter, resonating with both recruiters and job seekers alike. Tune in and join the conversation!
Episodes
From 30 to 130 Employees Without VC Money: Here’s How It Was Done with Tristan Mackrory
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Growing from 30 employees to over 130 in under two years is remarkable — doing it without any investors is even more uncommon. In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, Joel sits down with Tristan Mackrory, VP of People & Talent at Almeida, to explore one of the most impactful scaling stories in tech. Tristan shares how a warning from veteran teachers pushed him into recruiting, how he rose quickly in a global agency, and how early exposure to AI-driven hiring shaped his approach long before ChatGPT. He also talks about nearly ignoring the LinkedIn message that led him to Almeida — one that casually began with “Do you want to make free cash?” — and how he convinced its 21-year-old founder to approve a full company rebrand immediately after joining. The conversation covers his experience scaling a Silicon Valley–backed startup from Europe during hypergrowth, surviving its collapse, and then helping Almeida grow from 30 to 130+ employees with no outside funding. Tristan explains what it really takes to build high talent density, the role of branding in recruiting, and how his team managed 22,000 applications in just three months. He also highlights how hiring a full-time data analyst transformed their talent operations from reactive to strategic — and why recruiters must evolve into business-focused problem solvers. In this episode: [00:00] Introduction [00:28] Tristan's background [01:54] About Almedia [02:27] From teaching to recruiting [04:08] Landing the first recruiting role [05:22] Rapid career progression in agency recruiting [06:17] Early exposure to AI in hiring [08:17] Consulting for European startups [09:50] Relocating to Berlin to scale a venture-backed company [11:54] The reality of hypergrowth work life [13:57] How Tristan vets resilience in recruiters [17:35] Scaling to 250 employees before the collapse [18:33] From unicorn valuation to mass layoffs [19:48] The “free cash” message that changed everything [21:55] Joining a 21-year-old founder’s bootstrapped company [22:55] Rebranding the entire company for credibility [24:25] Hiring at scale in a difficult global market [26:47] Managing 22,000 applications in 3 months [27:26] Why each recruiter hires only one person per month [29:47] Why every talent team needs a data analyst [32:05] Using AI to build salary bands and hiring workflows [37:12] Why recruiting must shift from reactive to strategic [38:12] What the recruiter role looks like in 2026 [41:01] Tristan’s top advice on referrals and outreach [41:52] Closing and where to connect About Tristan Mackrory Tristan Mackrory is the VP of People & Talent at Almedia, a bootstrapped adtech startup. With over ten years of experience, he has scaled high-growth tech companies across San Francisco, Tel Aviv, and Europe. Known for stepping into chaos and building the structure, culture, and systems that allow teams to scale quickly without breaking, Tristan is a passionate advocate for high talent density, clear performance expectations, and a culture of ownership. He joined Almedia when it was 30 people and $90M in revenue and has helped scale it to 130+ employees and over $350M in revenue, all without external funding. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Tristan Mackrory Social Media LinkedIn Almedia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Challenges of AI and Spam Candidates in Recruitment with Erin McCann
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Think about how wild this is. Starting out as a wedding planner and ending up as an HR executive responsible for 450 people. Most people work their way into HR through recruiting. Almost nobody begins in sales or customer success and rises to lead talent. A career pivot like that isn’t just unusual. It is rare, bold, and seriously inspiring. In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, Joel sits down with Erin McCann, an HR leader with one of the most unexpected career journeys you will ever hear. Erin did not rise through the classic recruiting pipeline. She started as a wedding planner, shifted into hotel catering, moved into corporate sales, then customer success, and only later found her way into HR. Strangely enough, every twist in that path ended up giving her the perfect toolkit for leading people teams in fast-moving startups. Erin opens up about how she transitioned into HR, why she took a pay cut to reinvent her career, and how her sales and customer success background now give her a major advantage in understanding the business side of people operations. She also explains how she taught herself compliance, built processes from scratch, and built confidence through community, mentorship, and asking the beginner questions most people are afraid to ask. The conversation then gets real about the state of recruiting today, from bot candidates using AI voice tools to the growing difficulty of spotting fake resumes. Erin shares the red flags she is seeing, how her team is adjusting, and why human judgment is still irreplaceable even in an AI driven hiring world. Erin also talks about stability, layoffs, candidate trust issues, and what she believes HR’s real responsibility will be in the year ahead: being the steady, honest voice that keeps teams grounded and supported during uncertain times. In this episode: [00:00] Introduction [00:54] Erin’s background and career path [03:42] Transition to HR and early challenges [04:40] Comparing wedding planning and HR stress [05:41] Learning HR on the fly [07:46] Applying customer success skills to HR [10:00] Becoming a strategic business partner [12:32] Networking strategies and community involvement [16:18] Current recruiting challenges: spam and AI [19:27] Mitigating bot candidates and application fraud [22:14] AI in recruitment processes [24:13] Personalization vs. automation in outreach [25:59] Current job market sentiment [28:25] Evaluating company stability when job searching [31:21] Building custom GPTs for HR and sales [34:25] AI governance and best practices [36:10] Predictions for HR and recruiting [39:52] Closing and where to connect About Erin McCann Erin McCann is an executive HR and People leader with over 12 years of experience, currently leading the function at Genomenon, a global biotech company. With a first career in high-stakes sales, marketing, and customer success, she brings rare business acumen and a commercial mindset to building people strategies. Aaron is known for her practical, operational approach to scaling teams, her advocacy for strategic HR partnerships, and her early, hands-on experimentation with AI to solve real business challenges. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Erin McCann Social Media LinkedIn Genomenon, Inc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Why Human-First Recruiting Still Wins (Even in an AI World) with Nicole Hirsch
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Have you ever wondered what separates recruiters who stay sharp in chaos from those who fold under pressure? Or why, even in a world full of AI tools and automation, the human touch still wins? In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, Joel sits down with recruiting veteran Nicole Hirsch, who brings nearly two decades of agency and in-house experience across shifting markets—from the 2008 financial crisis to today’s AI-driven landscape. Nicole gets real about what’s changed, what’s repeating itself, and what recruiters must understand to stay relevant. She shares stories from her early days recruiting mortgage underwriters during the recession, how that shaped her resilience, and what pushed her to transition in-house. Nicole also breaks down how she built high-performing recruiting teams and why her agency roots still influence her approach. The conversation gets even better when they tackle AI. Nicole is pro-AI, but she gives a bold take: recruiters need to stop relying on generic AI outreach and bring back real, thoughtful, human messaging. She explains how authenticity drives stronger response rates and builds trust, referrals, and long-term career equity. Nicole also walks through how her team uses tools like BrightHire to improve interview quality, reduce bias, and elevate candidate experience—while keeping recruiter judgment at the core. If you’re trying to balance tech and humanity in today’s hiring world, this episode brings clarity, practical insight, and real-world perspective. Let’s dive in. In this episode: [00:01] Introduction [00:59] Nicole’s 17+ year recruiting journey and how 2008 shaped her [02:25] AI tools, market uncertainty, and the noise candidates face [03:59] Why personalized outreach still outperforms AI sequences [09:29] The agency mindset vs. the in-house mindset [13:10] Representing your company and yourself in the market [16:27] Referrals, relationships, and long-term trust building [19:01] Where AI belongs in recruiting (and where it doesn’t) [21:03] Nicole’s experience with one-way video interviews [22:12] The tech she actually uses: BrightHire + interview intelligence [26:44] The real risks: compliance, bias, and regulation [29:47] Job seekers, volume, and the reality of 2025 hiring [32:11] AI interviewers, bias, and candidate perception [34:49] Using AI for internal operations, Slack agents, and comp data [39:01] How Lattice links interview performance to quality-of-hire [47:00] The unsexy truth: candidate experience = prep + communication [49:46] Why transparency and phone calls never go out of style [52:02] Where to find Nicole and opportunities at Lattice About Nicole Hirsch Nicole Hirsch is a senior recruiting leader with 18 years of experience across agency, edtech, marketing tech, and HR tech. She currently leads recruiting at Lattice, where she specializes in interview intelligence, candidate experience, hiring strategy, and creating deeply human recruiting processes at scale. Nicole is known for her relationship-first approach, her operational rigor, and her belief that great recruiting will always center on people, not automation. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Nicole Hirsch Social Media LinkedIn Lattice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Reinvent Yourself or Get Left Behind: The Future of Recruiting with Jeremy Lyons
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In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Jeremy Lyons, co-founder of Rec Ops Collective and one of the most influential voices in the Rec Ops world. Together they unpack the nuances of recruiting operations (rec ops), the impact of AI and automation, and the importance of demonstrating business value in talent acquisition. Jeremy shares how his unconventional path into recruiting began long before his first official job. Influenced by his mother’s career in executive recruiting and shaped by early experiences in cheerleading and ballet, he learned the art of selling a vision and rallying people around a mission. That foundation guides everything he does today. Joel and Jeremy dig into the explosion of AI tools, the flood of point solutions, and why the real power lies not in mastering every platform but in understanding the principles behind them. They discuss the pressure on recruiters to quantify their business impact, the shift in ATS architecture toward data-driven design, and why Jeremy keeps his widely read newsletter free of sponsorship to protect its neutrality and credibility. Jeremy also reflects on reinvention, personal growth, and the importance of letting go of old personas. He talks about navigating uncertainty, the emotional weight of recruiting, and why genuine relationships will always matter more than automation. This episode is both practical and deeply human. If you work in Rec Ops, talent acquisition, or leadership, it is a powerful reminder that the future of recruiting depends as much on curiosity, adaptability, and connection as it does on any emerging technology. In this episode: [00:01] Introduction and guest welcome [00:59] Jeremy’s background and Rec Ops Collective origin [02:25] AI tools in recruiting and market uncertainty [03:59] Rec Ops Collective newsletter: purpose and growth [09:29] Content sponsorship and neutrality [13:10] Business impact and recruiting as a business function [16:27] Measuring impact and resume advice [19:01] Evolution of ATS and in-house vs. agency tools [21:03] Creativity and tech in talent teams [22:12] Jeremy’s entry into recruiting and early influences [24:32] Recruiting as relationship building [26:44] Family influence and corporate values [29:47] Human relationships vs. tech in recruiting [32:11] AI tools, job hopping, and career evolution [41:11] Rebranding yourself and embracing change [43:07] Uncertainty and the future of work [44:45] Closing and where to find Jeremy About Jeremy Lyons Co-founder of RecOps Collective, creator of the weekly RecOps Roundup newsletter, and a respected leader in recruiting operations, automation, process design, and TA systems strategy. Jeremy has worked across companies from 10 employees to 100,000+, helping teams scale, optimize, and rethink the architecture of recruiting. He is known for his neutral, insight-first approach to industry analysis and his commitment to making RecOps accessible and understood. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Jeremy Lyons Social Media LinkedIn Newsletter: Rec Ops Roundup on Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Inside the Black Hole: What Really Happens After You Apply with Julia Levy
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Did you know that recruiting has drastically evolved since the mid-1990s? In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, Joel sits down with talent acquisition leader Julia Levy to explore how recruiting has evolved and what still matters most. With more than two decades inside Fortune 500 companies, leading global TA operations and navigating major ATS implementations, Julia has seen every phase of the industry up close. She walks through her journey from career-counseling grad student to agency recruiter, to TA operations, and eventually to leading enterprise hiring teams responsible for more than 120,000 employees. Julia explains how recruiting shifted from relationship-driven phone sourcing to a landscape shaped by LinkedIn, automation, and AI, while reminding listeners that genuine human connection remains essential. She and Joel unpack why job descriptions often feel outdated, why resumes have become AI-optimized guesses, and how auto-apply tools are overwhelming recruiters and damaging the candidate experience. They also discuss fast-apply culture, what early-career job seekers are struggling with, and how Gen Z can navigate today’s competitive market. Julia highlights why understanding your ATS matters, how process decisions impact every part of the hiring cycle, and why data now drives modern TA. She also shares the motivation behind her new book From Hi to Hired, written for interns and new grads entering a challenging job market. Julia’s message is simple: great recruiting still depends on real connection, smart systems, and people who understand the work. In this episode: [00:57] Julia’s background [03:05] Current projects and consulting work [04:03] AutoZone role and scope of hiring [04:53] Origin story: entering recruiting [06:09] What recruiting looked like in the 90s [07:12] Evolution of digital recruiting [10:44] Transition to internal roles and TA operations [13:12] Career progression across major companies [16:01] Importance of TA operations knowledge [18:11] What hasn’t changed in recruiting [19:29] Job descriptions vs actual job needs [22:17] Candidate experience and the application black hole [26:41] Strategic job search and candidate education [28:12] Defining qualifications and application strategy [29:49] What recruiters look for in resumes [33:21] Industry experience and risk in hiring [35:49] Julia’s book: From Hi to Hired [39:06] Advice quality and social media misinformation [40:45] Challenges for new grads in today’s job market [43:16] Where to find Julia + Coach Julia AI About Julia Levy Julia Levy is a veteran Talent Acquisition executive with a background in career counseling. She has led global TA teams at Fortune 500 companies like AutoZone and MetLife, specializing in transforming clunky recruitment processes into efficient, candidate-friendly experiences. Now recovering from corporate life, she is an author, advisor to HR tech companies, and a passionate advocate for job seekers. Her new book, "From High to Hired" provides a strategic roadmap for college students to land their first job. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Julia Levy Social Media Website LinkedIn The Coach Julia AI Book: From Hi to Hired Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How to Build Credibility with Hiring Managers Before You Even Speak with Caroline Kiesler and Kearstin McGinnis
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In this live episode of Recruiting is No Joke, recorded at RecFest 2025 inside the Purple Acorn Tent, Joel Lalgee sits down with two powerhouse recruiting leaders, Caroline Kiesler, Director of HR at Workwear Outfitters, and Kearstin McGinnis, Recruitment Leader at TekSynap, to explore what it really takes to stay relevant in today’s rapidly evolving talent landscape. Caroline shares her inspiring journey from staffing recruiter to HR executive and breaks down how recruiters can transition into broader people roles by understanding compensation philosophy, succession planning, and leadership development. She challenges recruiters to stop chasing time-to-fill metrics and start building strategic credibility with hiring managers by leading with insights, not just job requisitions. Then, Kearstin dives into how AI is reshaping the recruiting process inside government contracting and why keeping the human touch matters more than ever. From nurturing long-term candidate relationships to adapting outreach for Gen Z talent, she offers real-world advice on personalization, conference networking, and building meaningful connections in a noisy digital world. In this episode: [00:00] Welcome to RecFest 2025 [00:34] Meet Caroline Kiesler: HR director at Workwear Outfitters [01:00] Caroline’s journey from recruiting to HR [01:48] Advice for transitioning from TA to HR [03:10] The importance of compensation philosophy [04:22] Reflections on RecFest [05:27] Fireside chat preview: TA through the lens of HR [08:20] Building credibility with hiring managers [12:58] Connecting with Caroline Kiesler [14:16] Introducing Kearstin McGinnis: recruitment for GovCon IT [14:41] Biggest changes and growth in AI [15:09] Implementing AI in recruitment [16:46] Maintaining human connection in recruitment [17:38] Engaging with candidates on social media [23:05] Maximizing conference experiences [25:28] Choosing the right vendors [27:13] Connecting with Kearstin McGinnis [27:54] Final thoughts About the Guests Caroline Kiesler is the Director of Human Resources at Workwear Outfitters, overseeing global HR strategy across talent acquisition, engagement, and development. With a foundation in recruiting, Caroline is passionate about building cultures that invest in people and long-term growth. Kearstin McGinnis leads recruitment for TekSynap, a government contracting IT firm operating across five countries. Known for her relationship-first approach, she focuses on humanizing candidate experience and embracing AI with authenticity and care. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Caroline Kiesler Social Media LinkedIn Workwear Outfitters Kearstin McGinnis Social Media LinkedIn TekSynap This episode is brought to you by Basic Capital. As a leader in innovative retirement solutions, Basic Capital helps companies empower their employees through a new kind of 401(k). Visit basiccapital.com to explore a customizable plan that engages your team, strengthens retention, and helps them grow their retirement savings up to five times faster. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Why Your 401(k) Might Be the Best Recruiting Tool You’re Not Using
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In this special live episode of Recruiting is No Joke, recorded at RecFest 2025 in Nashville, Joel Lalgee brings you raw, unfiltered conversations from the front lines. We go beyond the hype to tackle the real challenges and opportunities facing recruiters and HR leaders today. Joel chats with Nate Taylor from Basic Capital and Casey Timorason from Service Professionals, who reveal how a reimagined 401(k) has become a secret recruiting advantage—helping offers stand out, build loyalty, and transform how companies attract and retain talent. Next, Jennifer Beckman from Long Building Technologies talks about the skilled trades shortage and how a family-driven culture gives her company its edge. She shows what real innovation looks like when it’s built on connection—and why parents and new grads should rethink what a “safe” career really means. Finally, Kaysha Kruger, VP of People at AWC, brings a human perspective to the AI conversation—sharing why setting boundaries matters, why people leaders need a seat at the strategy table, and how the rise of small business acquisitions could create new opportunities for future entrepreneurs. This episode is part inspiration, part wake-up call—a reminder that the future of work isn’t just about technology, but about people who stay curious, adaptable, and bold enough to shape what’s next. About the Guests Nate Taylor Head of Growth at Basic Capital, a company creating a new type of 401(k) that amplifies employees' investing power. Casey Timorason leads Growth (Recruiting & Marketing) at Service Professionals, a residential home services company recruiting plumbers, electricians, and HVAC technicians. Jennifer Beckman HR Director at Long Building Technologies, an HVAC and building automation specialist focused on authentic connections and family culture. Kayshia Kruger VP of People & OD at AWC, an organizational psychology expert focused on the human side of business and AI integration. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on LI. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1B times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Nate Taylor Social Media LinkedIn Basic Capital Casey Timorason Social Media LinkedIn Service Professionals Jennifer Beckman Social Media LinkedIn LONG Building Technologies Kayshia Kruger Social Media LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 119: The Rinse Cycle of Work: Are You About to Be Left Behind? with Cassandra Rose
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The world of work is spinning fast. The gold rush of 2021 is over, money’s tighter than ever, and everyone’s trying to figure out what’s next. Are we adapting or just hanging on? In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Cassandra Rose, a powerhouse HR leader and Fractional Chief People Officer with one of the most unexpected career paths you’ll hear, from inner-city missionary to the C-suite. Together, they unpack what Cassandra calls “the rinse cycle”, this messy middle where companies are right-sizing, employees are job-hugging, and everyone’s redefining what stability really means. This episode isn’t just about surviving, it’s about evolving. Cassandra challenges listeners to think like entrepreneurs, build your personal brand, understand your company’s goals, and use AI not as a threat but as a tool to amplify your impact. Her “lamplighter” analogy will make you see technology and your career in a whole new light. If you’ve been feeling uncertain about your path, questioning your next move, or wondering how to stay relevant in a world that won’t stop changing, this conversation is your reset. Because the future of work isn’t waiting for anyone. It rewards the curious, the adaptable, and the ones brave enough to learn, unlearn, and lead through change. Let’s dive in! In this episode: [00:00] Podcast intro and guest welcome [01:09] Who is Cassandra Rose? From New Yorker to Fractional Chief People Officer [01:41] What “fractional” really means and why it’s on the rise [03:01] Cassandra’s unexpected path from missionary work to HR [04:48] Falling in love with people operations [06:21] What surprised her most about HR and how social media changed everything [07:50] Salary transparency and the end of gatekeeping [09:03] The recruiter’s dilemma: pay equity vs. lowball culture [10:52] The state of the job market in 2025 [12:00] How to evaluate companies before you apply [14:50] “The rinse cycle” of the workforce and what’s next [17:40] Why people are “job hugging” and how it’s affecting the market [19:30] The entrepreneurial mindset every worker needs [21:48] Redefining “value” in your role, how to link your work to business goals [24:20] The rise of intrapreneurship and cross-functional awareness [26:00] The future of work: Gen Z, AI, and brand-building at work [30:37] Embracing uncertainty and leading with curiosity [33:18] Cassandra’s “Lamplighter” analogy for AI resistance [36:26] Trust, humanity, and progress [39:33] The lighter side of HR, finding community and joy outside work [42:07] Her favorite professional networks and how to find your tribe [44:42] Where to connect with Cassandra online [45:13] Closing thoughts About Cassandra Rose Cassandra Rose is a seasoned HR leader and Fractional Chief People Officer at Fringe. With two decades of experience in HR, benefits strategy, and people operations, she helps growing companies design scalable people systems that empower both performance and wellbeing. Cassandra is also a thought leader on HR tech, DEI, and the future of work, sharing digestible insights on LinkedIn and Instagram About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Cassandra Rose Fringe LinkedIn Website Instagram Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 118: The Secret Sauce Behind High-Volume Hiring That Actually Works with Preston Sharpston
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What does it really take to recruit, hire, and support more than 800 employees across 16+ restaurant locations with just one person running HR? Sounds impossible, right? In the fast-paced world of high-volume hiring, speed, structure, and community aren’t just nice to have; they’re everything. In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Preston Sharpston, the one-man HR and recruiting powerhouse behind MWB Restaurants, the Whataburger franchisee for Tennessee and Alabama. With over a decade in HR and talent acquisition, Preston pulls back the curtain on what it’s really like to build and scale a recruiting function in one of the toughest industries out there. Preston also gets real about his love for automation. Using tools like Workstream and Zapier, he’s built workflows that handle everything from employment verification to leave requests, freeing up time to focus on what actually matters: people. If you’ve ever wondered how one person can keep an entire organization hiring at full speed without burning out, this episode is a masterclass in making recruiting smarter, faster, and more human. Because sometimes the most innovative talent work isn’t happening in tech, it’s happening in the drive-thru. In this episode: [00:00] Podcast intro and guest welcome [01:06] Preston’s career journey and current role at MWB Restaurants [02:04] Inside Whataburger’s hiring model and structure [03:42] What makes restaurant recruiting unique [04:35] The end-to-end hiring process, fast, lean, and high-volume [06:46] Opening a new location: how they attract and hire locally [08:35] Grassroots recruiting and community engagement [09:23] Dealing with application overload and automation tools [11:24] Key interview questions & identifying top candidates [13:30] Interview training and leadership development [15:17] Advice for recruiters pivoting into high-volume or hospitality [17:40] The metrics, dashboards, and tools driving recruiting ops [18:44] Auditing costs and improving retention [20:05] Hiring retirees, students, and diverse candidate profiles [22:44] Generational trends and managing younger workers [24:14] Tech stack breakdown: Workstream, Manyview, Zapier [27:31] Automating HR processes and knowing what not to automate [29:30] Scaling a company from 400 to 1,000 employees [30:19] Staying up to date and building community on LinkedIn [31:53] Launching the “Recruiting Stack” newsletter [33:00] Events and conferences: Prep for Breakfast in Nashville [34:29] Closing thoughts and takeaways About Preston Sharpston He leads Recruiting Operations and HR at MWB Restaurants, franchisee for Whataburger in Tennessee and Alabama. With over ten years in HR, recruiting ops, and business partnering, he’s passionate about using automation and enablement to make hiring fast, efficient, and human. Preston is also the creator of Recruiting Stack, a monthly newsletter packed with templates, tools, and insights for recruiters and TA professionals. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Preston Sharpston LinkedIn MWB Restaurants Recruiting Stack Newsletter Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 117: Recruiter Enablement: The Quiet Revolution Changing Talent Acquisition with Molly Sly
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Did you know that at Sage, just three people power a recruiter enablement team that supports 30 recruiters around the world? So how do they manage to help a global crew hire top talent across countries without dropping the ball? In this episode of "Recruiting is No Joke," host Joel Lalgee sits down with Molly Sly, leader of the Talent Acquisition Enablement team at Sage, to explore the vital but often overlooked role of recruiter enablement. Molly explains that enablement focuses on empowering recruiters by removing barriers providing the right processes, tools, and training so they can focus on engaging talent instead of administrative tasks. With over 20 years in recruiting, Molly shares how her team supports a global group of recruiters by creating regional playbooks, optimizing AI tools like Copilot for efficiency, and maintaining a central resource hub. She discusses the challenges of adapting to different hiring regulations and candidate expectations across countries, and emphasizes the importance of continuous training for both recruiters and hiring managers. Molly also offers advice for those looking to enter enablement or implement it on their own teams, stressing curiosity, a desire to improve processes, and a focus on the “human” side of recruiting especially as AI automates more routine tasks. Tune in for actionable insights on building a supportive, efficient, and globally-aware recruitment function. In this episode: [00:00] Podcast introduction [00:36] Guest introduction: Molly Sly [03:07] What is recruiter enablement? [05:58] The origin of the enablement team at Sage [08:20] Recruiter enablement vs. rec ops [08:54] AI tools and job description optimization [11:00] Global recruiting challenges [13:33] Building and maintaining regional playbooks [15:24] Playbook creation process [17:48] Continuous improvement and communication [20:14] Hybrid vs. remote work trends [22:17] Global candidate preferences and employer branding [26:30] Recruiter retention at Sage [28:06] Advice for aspiring enablement professionals [29:56] Resources and networking for enablement [30:28] Implementing enablement without a team [33:04] Change management and adoption challenges [36:35] The human element in recruiting and AI [38:34] Upcoming conferences and speaking engagements [39:30] How to connect with Molly About Molly Sly Molly Sly is a veteran recruiter and leader in Talent Acquisition Enablement at Sage, where she and her team support global recruiting operations across 13+ countries. With over 20 years in recruitment, she’s passionate about building systems, playbooks, and training that make recruiters more effective and engaged. Molly is also a frequent conference speaker on enablement strategy and the future of recruiting operations. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Molly Sly LinkedIn Sage Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 116: The AI illusion: Why recruiters still can’t be replaced with Steve O'Brien
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Is it cheating to use ChatGPT for your job application? That’s the question many recruiters are quietly asking themselves as AI-generated résumés flood their inboxes. At first glance, a copy-paste résumé straight out of ChatGPT might feel like a shortcut or even a fake. But what if it’s not as bad as it seems? In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Steve O’Brien, a seasoned talent acquisition leader who’s seen it all from old-school executive search to cutting-edge AI tools. Steve shares his winding journey through recruiting, HR tech, and leadership, but he doesn’t just stop at career highlights. He gets real about the messy reality of hiring: why some candidate experiences go sideways, the myths around AI “replacing” recruiters, and the overlooked role hiring managers play in breaking or sealing the deal. Steve shares a brilliant story of spotting a fake and explains why he’s surprisingly sympathetic. The key isn’t if you use AI, but how are you a strategic copilot or just on autopilot? The conversation also dives deep into how recruiters need to blend social intelligence, strategy, and technology to thrive. Can AI handle an intake call as well as a recruiter? Not yet. Can it help speed up tedious tasks? Absolutely. Steve argues the future isn’t about replacing humans, but about elevating them, letting tech handle the boring parts while people lean into judgment, persuasion, and connection. If you’ve ever wondered what really kills a hire, why resumes feel more AI-written these days, or how “soft skills” quietly shape careers, this episode is a must-listen. Because in recruiting, the stakes are high and no, it’s definitely no joke. Let’s dive in! In this episode: [00:00] Introduction and guest background [00:54] Steve’s career journey and transition to Syneos Health [03:03] Steve’s current role and team scope [04:33] AI and recruitment: Myths and realities [05:10] Limits of AI in recruiting processes [08:36] The art and social intelligence of recruiting [11:27] Common deal killers in recruitment [13:05] Role of hiring managers in recruitment outcomes [15:15] Automation vs. human judgment in talent acquisition [17:00] The great restructuring and future of work [19:24] Limitations of generative AI and LLMs [21:44] Effective use of AI as a copilot [24:54] Practical AI use cases and user training [29:14] AI-generated resumes and candidate evaluation [34:52] Interviewing for AI literacy and strategic use [38:29] AI’s impact on customer service and job replacement [41:39] Soft skills, career growth, and workplace politics [45:14] Closing and where to connect About Steve O’Brien Steve O’Brien is a veteran talent acquisition and HR tech leader with experience spanning agency, RPO, corporate, and startup environments. Currently at Syneos Health, he leads global recruiting, HR PMO, and workforce analytics, driving thousands of hires annually while shaping the future of TA tech and strategy. Steve is passionate about how AI can elevate—not replace—the human side of recruiting. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Steve O’Brien LinkedIn Syneos Health Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 115: The Recruiting Ops Blueprint They Don't Want You to Know with Alexa Lane
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What happens when you’re the only recruiter at a fast-growing startup? In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, host Joel sits down with Alexa Lane, Head of Recruiting at Placements.io, to find out. Alexa’s path to recruiting wasn’t a straight line. She started in marketing and sales (yes, even cold-calling at Yelp) before stepping into a role where she’s now a “team of one” responsible for all hiring. When she joined Placements.io, there was no ATS, no structured interviews, no real process, just a few spreadsheets. She walks us through how she built it all from scratch: rolling out Greenhouse, creating scorecards, training interviewers, and even helping shape company values to use as a hiring compass. The conversation digs into how the recruiter’s role has shifted from high-speed order-taking to a deeply strategic function where quality and alignment matter more than ever. Alexa shares how AI has become both a game-changer and a curveball. It is great for automating tasks like scheduling and writing job descriptions, but tricky when it comes to AI-generated resumes and fake candidates. They also zoom out to explore bigger industry shifts: why talent from giants like Amazon and Meta are flocking to startups, the push and pull of remote and hybrid work, and what candidates expect from the hiring experience in 2025. Packed with hands-on lessons and honest insights, this episode is a masterclass in building a recruiting function that is efficient, resilient, and most importantly human. Let’s dive in! In this episode: [00:00] Introduction & guest background [01:27] Alexa’s path into recruitment [03:22] Evolution of recruitment [04:54] Recruiting with fewer resources [05:56] Introduction to recruiting operations [07:11] Building scalable recruiting processes [09:18] Candidate feedback & process improvement [09:57] Training hiring managers & interviewers [11:29] AI in recruiting: Benefits & concerns [14:17] Red flags & fake candidates [15:41] AI-generated resumes & resume screening [19:19] Assessing startup fit & scrappiness [20:10] Advice for entering tech & startups [22:17] Modern networking strategies [25:00] Greenhouse conference takeaways [26:14] Employer branding & candidate attraction [27:14] Shifts in candidate preferences [28:33] Selling office culture [29:00] Big company to startup transitions [31:19] Hiring mindset shifts post-2021 [32:56] Evaluating AI vs. human roles [34:16] Advice for recruiters: Upskilling & operations [35:58] The future of recruiting roles [37:01] Upcoming events & conferences [38:56] Connecting with Alexa About Alexa Lane Alexa Lane is the Head of Recruiting at Placements.io, a global adtech platform headquartered in Seattle. As the company’s only recruiter, Alexa has built recruiting operations from scratch, implementing ATS systems, training interviewers, and shaping employer branding. With experience spanning agency, in-house, and startup recruiting, she’s passionate about balancing efficiency and humanity in hiring. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Alexa Lane LinkedIn https://placements.io/ Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 114: The Hidden Talent Goldmine: Why Recruiters Should Look Beyond Tech with Michele Sutton
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Tech recruiting may grab the headlines, but some of the most exciting opportunities for recruiters are found on the factory floor. Michele Sutton, Senior Director of Talent Acquisition at Chobani, has built her career connecting talent with purpose driven brands like Unilever, Ferrero, and now Chobani. Her journey proves that manufacturing roles can offer stability, growth, and meaningful community impact. In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, Joel Lalgee and Michele explore how recruiting looks different when the roles are tied to physical products millions of people consume every day. From the challenge of hiring maintenance techs to the rise of automation and AI, Michele reveals why manufacturing is a space recruiters should not ignore. She also shares how AI tools like Copilot and Gem are reshaping her workflow, why curiosity is the most important mindset when adopting new technology, and how candidates can stand out by doing their homework. The conversation wraps with practical advice on crafting the right LinkedIn outreach that actually gets a recruiter’s attention. The message is clear. Recruiting in manufacturing is not just alive, it is thriving. The question is whether more recruiters will step into this overlooked but rewarding arena. In this episode: (00:00:00) Introduction and guest introduction (00:01:30) Michele’s career journey (00:04:08) Perception and trends in manufacturing jobs (00:04:46) Recruiting challenges in manufacturing (00:07:13) Advice for recruiters considering manufacturing (00:08:22) Growth and expansion at Chobani (00:09:23) Technology and automation in manufacturing (00:12:07) Balancing scarcity and cultural fit (00:13:58) Candidate preparation and research (00:18:23) AI tools in recruitment (00:21:09) Adoption of AI and team mindset (00:26:50) AI in screening and interviewing (00:32:16) What makes a qualified candidate (00:34:39) Best practices for candidate outreach (00:36:45) Managing high volume of candidate messages (00:38:26) Closing remarks and contact information About Michele Sutton Michele Sutton is the Senior Director of Talent Acquisition for Chobani, leading supply chain recruiting and driving talent strategy for the company’s rapid growth in manufacturing. With career stops at Stryker, Unilever, and Ferrero, Michelle brings deep expertise in connecting talent to purpose driven brands. She is passionate about community building, scaling recruitment in evolving industries, and integrating AI tools to empower recruiters and candidates alike. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Michelle Sutton LinkedIn Chobani Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 113: AI and the Future of Recruitment: Solving Talent Acquisition Challenges with Adam from Talent Llama
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What if the perfect candidate applied for your job, but you never even saw their resume? What if the key to fixing this broken system wasn't a human, but an artificial intelligence designed to actually be more fair? In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee tackles these very questions with Adam Stokar, co-founder of Talent Llama. They expose the modern recruiting crisis: a perfect storm where thousands of spam and AI-generated applications drown talent teams, forcing genuinely qualified candidates into a digital black hole. Isn't it a tragic irony that the tools creating this problem might also be the solution? The conversation demystifies AI's role, framing it not as a job-replacer, but as a powerful ally. Can a machine conduct a dynamic, conversational skills assessment that rivals a harried recruiter? The answer, surprisingly, is yes. This technology efficiently identifies top talent, freeing up humans for what they do best: gauging culture fit and motivation. But do candidates actually like being screened by a bot? Astonishingly, 92% rate their AI interview experience highly, often preferring its immediate, low-stress nature over weeks of anxious silence. So, what’s the future for recruiters? The episode concludes with a crucial mandate: embrace AI to eliminate grunt work, but hone your uniquely human skills, strategy, empathy, and creativity to become an indispensable partner. Will you adapt and thrive, or be left behind? In this episode: (00:00) Introduction (00:40) Housekeeping and guest introduction (01:43) Adam's career journey and early ventures (04:24) The birth of Talent Llama (07:17) Challenges in recruitment and AI solutions (10:00) AI in recruitment: Concerns and benefits (17:53) Improving candidate experience with AI (20:32) The reality of job searching (22:49) AI in interviews: A surprising preference (23:31) Balancing automation and human interaction (25:17) The future of recruiting: A hybrid approach (30:01) Advice for recruiters in the age of AI (32:27) Embracing change and problem-solving skills (36:10) Upcoming events and final thoughts About Adam Stokar Adam is the co-founder of Talent Llama, an AI-powered recruiting platform helping talent teams fairly and efficiently screen candidates at scale. With a background in software engineering, entrepreneurship, and product development, Adam has spent his career building solutions at the intersection of tech, health, and hiring. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Adam Stokar LinkedIn X Talent Llama Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 112: Why HR Might Be the Secret Growth Engine in Your Company with Robert Buckley
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Did you know some companies are hiring architects not for buildings, but for people? That’s exactly what Robert Buckley does as Chief People Architect at Envada. His job isn’t about HR buzzwords, it’s about designing workplaces where culture drives growth and people come first. In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Robert to unpack why the future of work depends on leaders who do more than manage, they inspire, support, and develop talent at every level. Robert explains his core belief that “people create all value” and why companies can’t afford to treat culture as an afterthought. The conversation goes deep on AI too, but not in a hype-filled way. Robert shows how smart tech should actually remove friction, not add noise like how Envada slashed a seven-day job posting process down to just three minutes. From cutting his teeth at GE to shaping culture inside a high-growth tech bio startup, Robert shares candid lessons and practical advice for anyone who wants to thrive in today’s fast-changing workplace. In this episode: (00:03) Introduction (01:14) Meet Robert Buckley and the mission of Enveda (03:04) Why “Chief People Architect” is more than a title (04:40) From soccer fields to HR: Robert’s career journey (07:42) Lessons from 17 years inside GE’s HR development program (09:34) People as the ultimate creators of value (12:47) People leaders vs managers (14:32) How to build leadership development with vision (18:20) A bigger view of career growth and learning (21:12) Engagement beyond pay and promotions (23:26) Finding fulfillment outside of work (25:05) Embracing discomfort and continuous learning (29:01) AI, conjoint analysis, and lowering activation energy (34:54) Practical AI in HR vs shiny object distractions (38:44) When the answer isn’t technology (39:18) Where to connect with Robert About Robert Buckley Robert Buckley is the Chief People Officer atEnveda, a tech-bio startup using AI and machine learning to transform drug discovery. Known for his unique brand as a Chief People Architect, Robert has built a career on the belief that people create all value. With nearly two decades at GE and experience leading HR strategy across industries, he has become a champion of leadership development, culture building, and smart use of technology to remove barriers and help teams thrive. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Robert Buckley LinkedIn Enveda Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 111: Technology + Humanity in Hiring: AI, Candidate Experience & Real Talk with Ben Eubanks
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Hiring has been called “broken” for decades, but is it actually? And if so, what does “fixed” even look like? In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, Joel sits down with Ben Eubanks, Chief Research Officer at Lighthouse Research & Advisory, author, and HR tech analyst, to explore what’s working, what’s failing, and how talent leaders can prepare for a future shaped by AI, automation, and shifting workforce expectations. Ben shares his journey from HR practitioner to researcher, explains why rejection and discomfort are essential for growth, and challenges recruiters to rethink how they measure success in a world where technology is everywhere but humanity is irreplaceable. During the conversation, Joel and Ben dive into AI hype vs. reality, candidate experience, automation’s hidden costs, and why empathy, creativity, and critical thinking may be the most valuable skills of all in the future of work. Whether you’re a recruiter, TA leader, or HR pro wondering how to stay relevant in the age of AI, this conversation will leave you with fresh insights and practical takeaways. In this episode: [00:03] Podcast introduction [01:05] Introduction to Ben Eubanks [02:47] What does an analyst/researcher do? [05:42] Is hiring really broken? [09:30] Improving candidate experience [10:36] Ben’s journey into HR & recruiting [12:06] Transition to writing & speaking [14:44] The human side of HR & tech [16:17] Future of HR: Human skills vs. automation [18:38] AI, echo chambers, and human connection [20:17] Rejection, resilience, and growth [23:34] AI’s impact on social interaction [24:15] AI and grief: The limits of technology [27:02] Adapting to AI: Mindsets and mistakes [27:45] Candidates’ views on AI in hiring [29:33] Automation: Value creation vs. efficiency [33:26] Strategic HR: Building relationships [35:02] Business value and changing mindsets [36:28] Career growth: Getting out of your comfort zone [39:37] Closing & where to find Ben About Ben Eubanks Ben Eubanks is Chief Research Officer at Lighthouse Research & Advisory, where he leads studies on HR, recruiting, and the future of work. A former HR leader and recruiter, he’s the author of Artificial Intelligence for HR and Talent Scarcity, and a globally recognized speaker on workplace technology and strategy. Ben blends data-driven insights with a human-first perspective, helping organizations navigate the intersection of people and technology. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Ben Eubanks LinkedIn https://lhra.io/ Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter This episode is brought to you by Talent Llama , your smart, fair, and efficient AI-powered screening partner. With Talent Llama, you can expertly screen every applicant for the skills that truly matter. Its conversational AI interview agents craft tailored two-way voice interviews, evaluate responses, provide detailed scorecards, and suggest next steps so you save time and focus only on the best fits. And with integrations into ATS platforms like Jobvite, Lever, Greenhouse, and more, it slots seamlessly into your workflow. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 110: How AI is Transforming Recruitment and Hiring with Tom Lott of BAL Law Firm
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How is AI shaping recruitment today? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee explores the intersection of technology and talent acquisition with Tom Lott, head of Talent Acquisition at Barry, Appleman & Leiden (BAL), a global immigration law firm. With 25+ years in the industry, Tom has witnessed recruitment evolve from fax machines to AI-driven processes. He discusses how AI at BAL reduces time-to-fill, addresses challenges hiring managers face, and combats biases in hiring decisions. Tom also emphasizes the human side of recruiting, highlighting the importance of coaching hiring managers on interview techniques and overcoming bias. He explains why skills-based hiring is becoming crucial, particularly in law, where experience and education have historically been overemphasized. Tom shares how AI can automate repetitive tasks, freeing recruiters to focus on what they do best—connecting with candidates and hiring managers. With deep expertise in both agency and in-house recruiting, Tom offers valuable insights for anyone in talent acquisition. From leveraging technology to maintaining the human touch, this episode will change the way you approach hiring. Don’t miss his views on AI’s future role in recruitment. In this episode: (00:33) Tom’s career transition from financial services to the legal industry (00:43) Reflecting on Tom’s 25 years in talent acquisition (01:19) The early days of recruiting: DOS computers and fax machines (02:17) Transition from agency recruiting to in-house with JPMorgan Chase (03:12) Coaching hiring managers in an in-house role (04:47) The differences between agency and in-house recruiting (06:07) The overlooked role of hiring managers in the process (06:52) Coaching managers on interview processes and avoiding bias (09:02) Overcoming the “like me” bias in hiring decisions (10:36) Transitioning to skills-based hiring over experience-based hiring (12:07) Shifting focus from law school pedigree to evaluating writing skills (14:05) The role of AI in recruitment and its limitations (15:37) Addressing candidate ghosting and improving communication (17:10) The future of AI in recruitment and why it won’t replace recruiters (18:00) Embracing new technology while maintaining human connections (20:03) Closing remarks on embracing AI and staying relevant in recruitment (21:14) How to connect with Tom and upcoming speaking engagements About Tom Lott He leads talent acquisition at Barry, Appleman and Leiden (BAL), a global corporate immigration law firm. With 25 years of experience in recruiting across industries such as financial services and law, Tom has a wealth of knowledge in both agency and in-house roles. He brings a deep understanding of how technology, particularly AI, is reshaping recruitment, and how human connection and coaching are integral to successful hiring. Resource Links: Tom Lott LinkedIn BAL Law Firm This episode is brought to you by Talent Llama, the AI-powered platform for high-volume hiring. Talent Llama helps teams screen faster and fairer with skills-based, low-pressure voice interviews. No more resume chaos or awkward scheduling—just real conversations. Move faster and make candidates feel seen. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 109: From Headhunting to Transformation: AI, Talent Strategy, and the Future with Jess Von Bank
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Do you know if the jobs your company is hiring for today will even exist in three years? Or if your recruiters are spending too much time filling seats instead of creating strategic talent pipelines? In this eye-opening conversation, Jess VonBank, part of the HR Digital Transformation practice at Mercer, shares unfiltered truths about the inefficiencies plaguing recruiting and the bold steps needed to fix them. You’ll hear how Jess went from door-to-door insurance sales to niche executive headhunting, to leading high-volume hiring for 28,000 people in a year — and why she believes most TA leaders should be fired for wasting resources. Jess explains why AI isn’t just changing recruiting; it’s redefining what jobs will even exist, what skills will matter, and how companies must design hiring systems with precision, personalization, and long-term impact in mind. We also dive into urgent industry challenges, from healthcare staffing shortages to manufacturing’s generational shift. Jess offers actionable strategies for reframing the talent conversation with business leaders, using tech to solve real everyday problems, and overcoming what she calls “failure fatigue” in transformation projects. If you’re a recruiter, TA leader, or job seeker wanting a raw look at the future of work — this episode delivers. In this episode: 00:19 – Introducing Jess VonBank 02:36 – From Insurance Sales to Executive Headhunting05:00 – The Art and Science of Recruiting Before Social Media 09:34 – Why Most TA Leaders Should Be Fired13:19 – Moving From Reactive to Proactive Talent Strategy15:50 – Preparing Talent for AI Disruption 20:25 – Who Owns the Future of Workforce Planning24:58 – AI’s Mimicry Problem and Responsible Use30:08 – How AI Will Reshape the Corporate Pyramid35:48 – Rebranding Healthcare and Frontline Work39:42 – Failure Fatigue vs. Change Fatigue42:13 – Transformation Starts with Obsessing Over Problems45:14 – Where to Connect with Jess About Jess Von Bank Jess VonBank is part of the HR Digital Transformation practice at Mercer, where she helps organizations reimagine their talent strategies and workforce design in the age of AI. With a career spanning executive headhunting, high-volume corporate recruiting, and technology advisory, Jess has led initiatives hiring tens of thousands while maintaining quality at scale. She is a frequent speaker at major HR and tech conferences and also runs Diverse Daisies, a nonprofit empowering girls through mentorship and growth experiences. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Jess Von Bank Jess VonBank LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessvonbank Mercer: https://www.mercer.com Diverse Daisies Nonprofit: https://www.diversedaisies.org Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 108: From CVs to Gamified Assessments: The Future of Retail Hiring with Giorgio Benassi
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What does it really take to recruit and keep great talent in the fast-moving world of retail? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Giorgio Benassi, Global TA Director at Sephora, to dig into the unique challenges of high-volume hiring. We’re talking more than 30,000 hires a year at Sephora, plus Giorgio’s past experience at H&M, so he knows a thing or two about balancing speed with a top-notch candidate experience. Giorgio shares how Sephora is using AI and even gamified assessments (instead of the traditional CV screen) to spot personality traits that align with the brand’s values. He’s big on transparency too, making sure candidates know both the perks and the pressures of retail roles right from the start, a key move to cut down on turnover. The conversation also dives into how the recruiter’s role is changing, moving away from being just gatekeepers and leaning more into building real relationships. Giorgio points out that authenticity matters more than ever in candidate interactions. And for those looking to break into recruiting, he’s clear: professionalism and constant learning are non-negotiables. Don’t just rely on AI tools, master your craft. If you want a no-BS take on talent strategy, retention, and the future of retail recruitment, this episode is a must-listen. In this episode: (00:00) Introduction (00:56) Giorgio’s background and what he does (01:18) Sponsor message (02:29) Sephora’s scale: hiring 30,000 people a year (03:28) Giorgio’s career path: from H&M to Sephora (04:34) Why retail recruiting is underestimated (06:36) The retention challenge: cutting first-year turnover (08:59) Replacing CVs with gamified assessments (11:58) How Sephora attracts candidates across regions (15:41) Screening for “service-mindedness” (18:07) Balancing transitional vs. career hires (20:22) The recruiter’s new role: from gatekeeper to relationship builder (23:31) Advice for early-career recruiters on building authentic relationships (28:53) How to build credibility with hiring managers (30:47) Why recruiters can’t just rely on AI tools (32:41) Where to connect with Giorgio + upcoming events This episode is brought to you by HeyMilo AI, the conversational AI built for high-volume hiring. HeyMilo helps recruiters save hours by automating initial screens while delivering smooth, two-way interviews at scale. Book a demo at HeyMilo.ai and see why top teams trust it to elevate their brand. About Giorgio Benassi Giorgio is the Global Talent Acquisition Director at Sephora, overseeing hiring strategies across regions. With prior experience as Head of Talent CoE at H&M, he brings deep expertise in high-volume recruitment, talent assessment, and global TA strategy. Resource Links LinkedIn SEPHORA Unleash Paris (October) Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 107: How Ashby’s TA Leader Designs Systems That Scale with Jim Miller
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Have you ever read a resume that’s just too perfect? The kind that nails every keyword, hits all the right phrases, and somehow mirrors your job description like it was custom-built for it? Odds are, it probably was by AI. In fact, some candidates are even letting AI sit in on interviews and answer questions for them. Is this the future of hiring or a shortcut that undermines authenticity? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Jim Miller, Global Head of People at Ashby, to unpack what’s really changing in recruiting and why most teams are focused on the wrong problems. Jim shares his journey from agency recruiting in the UK to running sourcing at Google, where he helped build their ATS (Ghire) from scratch in 30 days. Now at Ashby, he’s designing workflows and tools that challenge how modern recruiting operates. They discuss why the "human in the loop" matters less as a buzzword and more as a compliance framework, how hiring manager-led recruiting is on the rise, and why the future of TA lies in process design not better prompts. You’ll also hear how Jim uses creative application techniques (like the now-famous “broccoli question”) to outsmart AI-generated resumes, why recruiters need to think like engineers, and what the real ROI of AI tools should look like in hiring. In this episode: (00:36) Welcome to the Purple Acorn Network + guest intro (01:05) Jim’s background: from agency to Google to Ashby (03:32) How Boolean logic kickstarted Jim’s sourcing career (05:00) The “bait-and-switch” that led him to Google (06:25) Designing Google’s in-house ATS (G Hire) in 30 days (07:59) Moving to the US and leading inbound at Google (08:09) Designing inbound with a sourcing mindset (08:23) Joining FullStory and experiencing hypergrowth (10:10) From FullStory to Ashby: finding better tools (12:30) Becoming Ashby’s TA leader (and power user) (13:42) Future-proofing recruiters: think in process (15:30) Why TA teams are being replaced by hiring managers (17:43) You can’t just deploy AI, you need the right process (20:24) What “human in the loop” really means (23:42) Reviewing only 10% of resumes? You’re doing it wrong (26:40) AI-generated resumes & the “broccoli question”/Application questions basis (30:36) AI-Augmented candidates and assessing expertise (32:46) Why AI is an amplifier, not a substitute for expertise (35:10) Jim’s hot take: The passive vs. active candidate market (38:00) Activating talent through pattern-based sourcing (40:44) Market cycles, new skills, and the future of work (41:45) New roles, unknown skills: how to spot opportunity (43:05) Where to find Jim + upcoming events About Jim Miller Jim Miller is Head of People at Ashby, a leading ATS platform. With over 25 years in recruiting, including 15 years at Google where he helped build their internal ATS, Jim brings a rare mix of sourcing, system design, and leadership. He’s a vocal advocate for process-driven recruiting and thoughtful tech adoption. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Jim Miller LinkedIn Ashby Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Mentioned Purple Acorn Network G-Hire Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 106: 20 Years as a Recruiter: Crafting the Perfect Resume and How AI is Changing the Game with Tony Le
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Is LinkedIn still worth the price? Are fake resumes making remote hiring a nightmare? And could AI actually take over your recruiting job? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel sits down with Tony Le, Global Head of Talent at Mission Cloud, to talk tech recruiting in 2025. Mission Cloud is a leading cloud services and AI solutions provider. From early days in retail to leading global talent teams, Tony pulls no punches on what it really takes to stay relevant in today’s fast-evolving market. They break down why LinkedIn’s pricing feels like a mystery box, the real deal on InMails, and how recruiters can future-proof their careers with AI, data, and tech fluency. Additionally, Tony shares what it’s like to screen 400 resumes in a day, how to spot AI-generated resumes, and why “giving your candidates an edge” might just be the new standard. If you’re a talent, on the job market, or just trying to stay ahead in 2025, you don’t want to miss this one. In this episode: (00:03) Introduction (01:01) Introduction to Tony Le and what he does (01:55) Sponsor message for Hey Milo AI (03:18) Falling into recruiting: how a cousin’s career fair changed everything (06:58) Leaving agency life: the grind of replacing 50 consultants every 18 months (09:14) Pivoting in-house: from Ask Jeeves to influencing the whole company (12:34) The LinkedIn pricing mystery: why no one pays the same (16:35) Gen Z, TikTok, and the pressure to build a personal brand early (20:03) The future of LinkedIn: moving toward creators, ads, and beyond (21:44) Common mistakes and what recruiting teams look for in resumes (22:58) What AI does with resumes (24:41) The resume trick recruiters actually notice: it’s all in the headline (26:40) The role of an account manager (27:06) Remote work and applicant flow (27:40) Challenges in screening resumes (30:07) The rise of fake candidates and AI-enhanced resumes (33:24) Interview preparation and etiquette (36:48) Zoom etiquette, t-shirts, and what still matters in interviews (39:48) Why great recruiters prep their candidates (42:01) How hiring managers are changing and what they’re not doing anymore (44:54) Tony’s advice for recruiters to stay relevant (51:42) Where to find Tony and his favorite Slack communities (52:16) Final thoughts About Tony Le Tony Le is the Global Head of Talent Acquisition at Mission Cloud, a CDW company. With 20+ years of experience in both agency and in-house recruiting, he’s seen the tech talent world from every angle. Tony is a firm believer in pairing real-world people skills with tech-forward recruiting strategies and he’s not afraid to question the status quo. Resource Links LinkedIn Mission Cloud This episode is brought to you by HeyMilo AI, the conversational AI built for high-volume hiring. HeyMilo helps recruiters save hours by automating initial screens while delivering smooth, two-way interviews at scale. Book a demo at HeyMilo.ai and see why top teams trust it to elevate their brand. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 105: Startups, Burnout & Boundaries: The Realities of Culture at Speed with Tannum Sullivan
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What does Drag Queen Bingo have to do with employee engagement? In this episode, Joel catches up with Tannum Sullivan, Senior Manager of People, Experience & Culture at RentSpree — a prop-tech startup that’s redefining how people rent (and how employees stay engaged). They dive deep into the real reasons engagement is hitting all-time lows and why the old HR playbook isn’t enough anymore.Tannum shares what it’s really like building culture from the inside — not the sidelines — and why true engagement means showing up for your people in ways that matter (spoiler: drag queen bingo might be your new secret weapon). They unpack what startup life actually feels like (hint: multiple hats, daily chaos, and lots of autonomy) and why it’s not for the faint of heart.They also get real about burnout, boundaries, and why leadership must lead by example if they want employees to take PTO guilt-free. Plus: how to talk to leadership in their language (data!) and why guiding principles are more than corporate wallpaper — if you know how to test them.Packed with practical advice, fresh ideas, and honest takes, this episode is for anyone trying to make work work again in 2025.In this episode: (00:00:03) Podcast introduction (00:01:15) Catching up with Tannum and RecFest memories (00:02:19) Tannum’s new role at RentSpree and focus on culture (00:03:42) Why engagement is at historic lows — and what’s really going on (00:06:08) Remote work, rethinking employee connection & drag queen bingo (00:07:06) How to really listen to employees (hint: skip the surveys) (00:09:20) Why knowing the business matters for HR & TA pros (00:12:02) The great generational divide — and the power of autonomy (00:16:08) Startup culture: chaos, multiple hats, and finding the right fit (00:21:04) Testing if “guiding principles” are real — smart questions for job seekers (00:28:30) Burnout & overwork: how to set boundaries in a startup (00:33:34) Getting leadership buy-in: speaking their language with data (00:36:03) Real metrics to watch: pulse surveys, Slack emojis & reposts (00:39:35) How to connect with Tannum & final thoughts About Tannum SullivanTannum Sullivan is the Senior Manager of People, Experience & Culture at RentSpree, a fast-growing property tech startup. A true culture builder, she believes engagement can’t happen from the sidelines — it takes rolling up your sleeves, knowing the business, and sometimes hosting a drag queen bingo night to keep remote teams connected.Resources LinkedIn RentSpree About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 104: Why Can't Restaurants Keep Staff? (And What Carl's Jr Is Doing About It) with Chrystal Gualtieri
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Want to know how a global restaurant chain hires 1,500+ employees while battling an industry notorious for turnover? In this episode, Joel chats with Chrystal Gualtieri, the Global Talent Acquisition Leader at CKE Restaurants—the powerhouse behind Carl’s Jr. and Hardee’s. They dive into the ins and outs of recruiting in the fast-paced hospitality world and explore how recruiters can keep things human in an age dominated by technology and templates.Chrystal takes us through her fascinating journey, from handling high-volume nonprofit hiring to steering talent acquisition in a corporate setting. She breaks down the real reasons behind restaurant retention challenges and explains why even the smartest applicant tracking system can’t replace the warmth of genuine candidate care. Along the way, they discuss hot topics like the evolving role of hybrid work, AI’s place in the recruitment process, and even some resume red flags (yes, your email address might be giving you away!).With a mix of practical advice and real-world insights, Chrystal also reveals how she handles the pressure of managing multiple roles with just a spreadsheet, a smile, and a lot of grit. Whether you’re a seasoned recruiter or just curious about the behind-the-scenes of hiring in hospitality, this episode is packed with valuable nuggets that can help anyone navigating the recruitment maze with too much on their plate and not enough backup.In this episode: (00:00:03) Podcast introduction (00:01:15) Chrystal’s background and journey into recruitment (00:02:11) Sponsor message and recruitment tech (00:03:26) Chrystal’s early recruitment experience (00:04:38) Transition to corporate recruiting (00:05:17) Tech industry vs. hospitality industry (00:06:08) AI adoption in hospitality recruitment (00:08:23) Restaurant staffing and retention challenges (00:10:30) Corporate recruitment challenges (00:12:43) Hybrid work environment and candidate expectations (00:14:09) Building relationships in a hybrid office (00:16:41) Communicating hybrid work policies to candidates (00:20:53) Authenticity and AI in applications (00:22:36) Resume details and LinkedIn consistency (00:26:00) Candidate follow-up etiquette (00:28:21) Tracking job applications and networking (00:30:22) Candidate experience and tech limitations (00:33:23) Handling candidate rejections (00:36:40) Recruiter workload and full-cycle responsibilities (00:37:42) Connecting with Chrystal and closing remarks This episode is brought to you by HeyMilo AI, the conversational AI built for high-volume hiring. HeyMilo helps recruiters save hours by automating initial screens while delivering smooth, two-way interviews at scale. Book a demo at HeyMilo.ai and see why top teams trust it to elevate their brand.About Chrystal GualtieriChrystal Gualtieri is the Global Talent Acquisition Leader for CKE Restaurants, the parent company of Carl’s Jr. and Hardee’s. With 1,500+ hires under her belt and nearly a decade of experience, Chrystal brings high-volume hustle and high-touch heart to every part of the recruiting process. She’s also a big believer in leading with empathy, staying tech-savvy but human-first, and celebrating every small win in a very big job.Chrystal Gualtieri LinkedIn CKE Restaurants About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 103: The Recruiting Secret Weapon: Meet-and-Greets, Not Just Job Posts with Stephanie Murray
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In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee welcomes Stephanie Murray, Senior Director of Talent at Brightside Health, for her first-ever podcast appearance. With nearly two decades in healthcare recruiting, Stephanie gets real about the state of the industry, the mental health hiring crisis, and what it takes to build a high-functioning, data-driven talent function.They dig into Brightside’s massive scale—from 20 clinicians to 1,200—and why sourcing, not job posts, drives most of their hires. Stephanie opens up about postpartum depression, the personal “why” behind her work, and the game-changing strategy of turning meet-and-greets into a pipeline goldmine.She also drops the playbook on Brightside’s award-winning Talent Collective and how adding free CEUs and wellness perks helped them build a community that actually converts. Plus, they tackle what AI, overregulation, and therapist burnout mean for the future of recruiting. Let’s jump in!In this episode: (00:00:03) Introduction (00:02:19) Stephanie’s background and Brightside Health overview (00:04:55) Scaling Brightside Health and data-driven hiring (00:06:56) Challenges in healthcare hiring (00:08:35) Recruitment marketing and sourcing strategies (00:10:37) Building the Brightside Talent Collective (00:11:37) Meet and greets and community engagement (00:13:17) Impact of the Talent Collective (00:14:34) Meet and greet structure and recruiter coaching (00:18:07) Community value and engagement tactics (00:19:17) Expanding to associate therapists and university outreach (00:20:48) Community growth and brand impact (00:22:04) Advice for building talent communities (00:24:03) Career advice for aspiring mental health professionals (00:26:03) Corporate hiring trends and market outlook (00:31:47) Application volume and candidate screening (00:32:51) Sourcing vs. waiting for applicants (00:33:38) Podcast wrap-up and where to connect About Stephanie MurrayStephanie Murray is the Senior Director of Talent at Brightside Health, a national leader in tele-mental health. With nearly 20 years of recruiting experience—most of it in healthcare—Stephanie now leads with a passion for building high-performing teams that truly care about making a difference. From launching talent communities to reducing time-to-hire through proactive engagement, she’s redefining what strategic recruiting looks like in a mission-driven, fast-growth company.Stephanie Murray LinkedIn Brightside Health About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 102: Breaking Into Construction: Career Pivots & Recruiting in Hard-Hat Industries with Kala Kapahalou
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Is construction the next big thing in recruiting? In the 100th episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Kala Kapahalou, Director of Talent Acquisition at W.E. O’Neil, to talk about a rarely spotlighted industry with massive opportunity: construction.From ditching culinary school dreams to leading TA at a top national contractor, Kala shares his deeply personal and professional journey—from being told he was “too quiet” to thrive in recruiting, to proving everyone wrong. He offers a behind-the-scenes look at what hiring looks like in a world of million-dollar projects, civil engineering demands, and an ongoing talent shortage.Joel and Kala cover everything from soft skills and culture fit, to career pivots and whether AI will ever take over construction jobs. They dig into why construction needs better branding, how soft skills have become the new superpower, and what younger talent is missing when stepping into the workforce.In this episode: (00:03) Introduction and milestone update (01:17) Meet the guest: Kala Kapahalou (02:53) Kala’s origin story—from culinary dreams to recruiting (05:01) Leaving agency life for internal TA (06:52) Taking a pay cut to level up long-term (10:58) Construction vs. tech: why you should consider the hard hat (12:35) What do project managers in construction actually do? (13:50) Importance of relationships in construction (14:20) The underrated power of soft skills in blue-collar industries (16:45) Where construction hiring is headed (18:02) Field vs. Office jobs in construction (19:13) Decline in union interest and labor pipeline (21:49) Construction’s growing culture shift: balance, flexibility & retention (23:18) Will AI and automation affect construction? (26:38) Soft skills in Gen Z: what recruiters are noticing (28:25) AI in recruiting: tool or threat? (33:08) What makes a great interviewee (36:31) Joel’s classic advice: interview = conversation, not interrogation (41:05) Culture fit vs. hard skills: what really matters (42:11) How to connect with Kala & W.E. O’Neil (44:01) Wrap-up and Joel’s call to action About Kala KapahalouKala Kapahalou is the Director of Talent Acquisition at W.E. O’Neil, a leading national construction firm. With over 16 years in recruiting, Kala’s career began unconventionally — starting as a recruiting assistant after pivoting from culinary school ambitions. His journey spans agency staffing, direct hire, and now corporate talent leadership in one of the most relationship-driven and complex industries: construction.Known for his resilience, adaptability, and emphasis on soft skills as a competitive edge, Kala has helped shape recruiting strategies that balance field operations with long-term cultural fit. He's a vocal advocate for elevating the perception of construction careers and building pipelines that meet the real demands of the industry.Resource Links W.E. O’Neil LinkedIn About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 101: How Emotional Intelligence is Changing the Hiring Game with Napoleon "Napo" Rumteen
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Did you know that emotional intelligence (EQ) can be a better predictor of job success than traditional hard skills? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Napoleon "Napo" Rumteen, founder and CEO of Interactive EQ, to talk about how emotional intelligence and soft skills are reshaping how we assess talent. If you've ever wondered why some candidates ace interviews but flop on the job—or how to make hiring less of a gamble—this episode is a must-listen.Joel and Napo dive into the flaws of experience-first hiring, discuss the dangers of relying on gut instincts, and introduce new ways to measure the “intangibles” that truly make a candidate succeed. They explore the importance of reading the room, how EQ is linked to leadership, and the need for immersive evaluations that go beyond the resume.From high-churn costs to the misalignment between talent and company culture, this episode challenges old-school hiring practices and offers fresh, research-backed solutions for the modern workforce.In this episode: (00:00:03) Introduction and episode overview (00:01:17) Guest introduction: Napoleon Rumteen (00:01:46) Why assess emotional intelligence? (00:02:24) Hard skills vs. soft skills (00:03:46) Defaulting to experience in hiring (00:04:36) Challenges in interviewing for soft skills (00:06:09) The marriage analogy and interview limitations (00:09:33) Common hiring mistakes (00:11:00) Defining emotional intelligence (00:12:06) Reading the room and EQ in practice (00:13:37) Prevalence and teachability of EQ (00:14:03) EQ in management and sports (00:16:19) Diagnosing and developing EQ (00:17:33) Performance management and PIPs (00:19:08) Measuring performance beyond sales (00:20:24) How to grow EQ (00:21:29) Simulated assessment environments (00:23:46) Candidate experience and assessment details (00:28:12) Scoring soft skills and key categories (00:30:00) Measuring and defining culture fit (00:31:16) Customizing assessments for organizations (00:33:26) Current trends: Reorgs and tech’s impact (00:34:32) Balancing EQ and experience in hiring (00:35:42) EQ in the remote and post-pandemic world (00:37:35) EQ as the X-factor in recruitment (00:39:19) Modern communication challenges and EQ (00:40:31) Safeguarding against bias in culture fit (00:41:26) The business case for EQ and retention (00:43:13) How to connect and learn more (00:46:06) Closing remarks and next steps About Napoleon "Napo" RumteenNapoleon "Napo" Rumteem is the founder and CEO of Interactive EQ, a platform using immersive, simulation-based assessments to measure emotional intelligence and soft skills. With years of experience interviewing thousands of candidates, Napo created Interactive EQ to close the gap between instinct-driven hiring and real-world performance.Napoleon "Napo" Rumteen Interactive EQ LinkedIn Email About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 100: How to Find Real Talent in a Sea of AI with Erin Turnmeyer
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AI is rewriting resumes. Candidates are deepfaking interviews. Job postings go live—and within hours? Thousands of applications flood in. So how does anyone actually hire the right person anymore?In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with someone who’s not just talking about the chaos—she’s living it. Meet Erin Turnmeyer, VP of People Operations at Civis Analytics, juggling HR, recruiting, and payroll all on her own. One-person team. Zero fluff.How do you spot a fake candidate in a world of perfectly polished LinkedIn profiles and AI-generated cover letters? How do you cut through the noise and find people who really bring it?Erin brings the receipts—from her days recruiting in counterterrorism to leading hiring at high-growth tech startups. She shares what it takes to transition from government to tech, what AI is really doing to the hiring process, and how to keep the human element front and center.If you’re a recruiter drowning in resumes, a job seeker wondering how to stand out, or just curious about the future of work—this episode is your roadmap. Because hiring in 2025? It’s a battlefield. But Erin Turnmeyer knows how to navigate it—and she’s not holding back..In this episode: [00:03] Introduction and episode milestone [01:37] Guest intro: Erin Turnmeyer and her role at Sybase Analytics [02:24] Erin’s recruitment journey from federal government to tech [03:56] The surge in applications and rise of fake/AI-generated resumes [05:23] Four groups of fraudulent applicants and how they bypass systems [07:56] 990 applicants, 50 real contenders [08:38] What “qualified” actually means in tech hiring today [10:15] AI during interviews: how it’s detected and why it matters [12:46] How tech companies are thinking about AI—and what candidates need to know [13:21] Erin’s favorite AI tools and why human connection still wins [14:08] AI, job security, and why strategic thinkers stay valuable [15:54] Corporate reorgs, impact measurement, and job self-awareness [17:37] AI freeing HR pros from paperwork—and unlocking real impact [18:40] The irreplaceable value of strategic recruiting conversations [19:36] Advice for government employees moving into private sector [22:44] Why government workers struggle with bragging on resumes [23:45] Private sector myths: lazy, slow, and overly bureaucratic? [24:18] Counterterrorism vs. corporate: pace, pressure, and autonomy [25:22] Is tech still worth it? Erin’s take on risk, learning, and growth [27:30] The rise of trades and rethinking what “meaningful work” means [28:43] Remote work, mentorship gaps, and early-career development [33:13] Networking, discomfort, and finding your voice online [35:08] Closing thoughts and where to connect with Erin About Our GuestErin Turnmeyer is the VP of People Operations at Sybase Analytics. With roots in federal recruitment for the U.S. intelligence community, she brings rare insight into both bureaucratic systems and fast-paced startups. Erin now leads HR, recruiting, payroll, and more—solo. She’s a fierce advocate for real hiring practices, ethical AI use, and helping federal employees transition into tech.Erin Turnmeyer Social Media LinkedIn Website About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 99: AI Won’t Replace You—But Ignoring It Might: Real Talk with Logan Marsh
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When you’re applying to jobs in 2025, the world feels a little upside down. AI is everywhere. Remote work is under debate. And recruiters? They’re being asked to do more with less—again. So, how do we make sense of it all?In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Logan Marsh, Head of Talent Acquisition at Calendly, to unpack the realities of hiring in a rapidly evolving landscape. With nearly two decades of experience spanning tech giants like Amazon and Microsoft, Logan brings a no-BS perspective on what’s changing—and what’s just noise.From switching from enterprise to scrappy startup mode, to leading TA in a “remote-first-but-not-remote-only” org, Logan shares how he’s rethinking systems, data, and candidate experience at scale. He also gets real about job searching after a layoff, why AI won’t replace recruiters any time soon, and how curiosity (not panic) is your best weapon in today’s job market.Whether you’re a hiring leader, job seeker, or just trying to keep your head above water in a sea of tools and headlines, this episode cuts through the fluff and gets to what matters most: real strategy, real people, and real talk.In this episode: [00:01:09] Logan’s background and why he left big tech for a smaller, scrappier mission [00:04:30] Calendly’s growth journey and the challenge of doing more with less [00:06:49] Owning the full recruiting lifecycle—from headcount planning to tooling [00:08:26] Enterprise vs. startup: what changes and what stays the same [00:09:49] The dual reality of layoffs and innovation in today’s job market [00:11:48] Logan’s job search tips: real networking > recycled TikTok scripts [00:14:10] How Logan landed the Calendly role (hint: not through his network!) [00:17:41] Remote work: time zones, productivity myths, and flexible futures [00:21:47] Remote-first vs. work-from-home: what’s the difference, really? [00:25:01] Creating culture with intention in distributed teams [00:28:57] AI in recruiting: co-pilot, not replacement [00:31:39] What hiring teams are really looking for in AI-savvy candidates [00:34:57] Interviewing for curiosity, adaptability, and ownership [00:37:29] Why transcription tools are a total game-changer in hiring [00:40:48] Logan’s favorite AI tools (and how he actually uses them) [00:44:42] Advice for new grads: tech’s not dead, but it is evolving [00:46:13] Emerging industries to watch: healthtech, defense, climate About Logan MarshLogan Marsh is the Head of Talent Acquisition at Calendly, where he leads global hiring strategy at one of the most widely used scheduling tools in the world. With nearly 17 years in TA, Logan’s experience spans leadership roles at Amazon, Microsoft, and Okta. Passionate about operational excellence and human-first hiring, he brings both enterprise wisdom and startup scrappiness to every team he leads.Logan Marsh Social Media LinkedIn Website About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 98: Inside Talent Strategy, Retention, and Employer Expectations with Matt Lowney
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Let’s be honest: recruiting is rarely simple—and in high-turnover, high-volume environments, it’s downright relentless. But what if we stopped overcomplicating it and focused on what really matters: clear expectations, streamlined systems, and actually respecting people’s time?In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Matt Lowney, Managing Director of Talent Acquisition at CoreCivic, a corrections and reentry services company hiring 8,000+ people a year. From healthcare to corrections, Matt brings decades of experience managing large-scale, multi-site recruiting operations and shares his playbook for making high-volume hiring not only work—but work better.With humor, Matt digs into what’s broken in hiring today—from inflated job titles and unclear expectations to the overhyped promise of “culture.” He’s brutally honest about what candidates really want (spoiler: it’s not ping-pong tables) and why it’s time to separate why someone joins from why they stay.This isn’t your typical TA chat. You’ll hear how Matt’s team is testing AI workflows, spending $400k/month on omnichannel ads, and applying ruthless focus to improving “time to paycheck”—all while navigating human realities like burnout, motivation, and candidate experience at scale.So whether you're deep in the hiring trenches or leading strategy from the top, this episode is packed with real-world insight to sharpen your recruitment edge. This episode was brought to you by Interactive EQ. A one of a kind talent assessment platform that measures how people will handle real life situations. Check out what they do and let them know Joel sent you.In this episode: [00:00] Introduction [00:51] Meet the guest: Matt Lowy [02:16] Matt's background and CoreCivic's hiring process [03:18] Sponsorship break: Interactive EQ [04:06] Challenges and strategies in recruitment [07:55] The evolution of recruitment and work culture [19:30] The role of AI in recruitment [21:13] Automation in recruitment [21:55] Inbound applications workflow [22:50] The role of recruiters in the future [23:45] Human interaction in recruitment [26:22] Challenges in recruitment [28:45] Candidate experience and feedback [32:22] Workplace culture and retention [38:11] Advice for job seekers [42:16] Conclusion and farewell About Matt LowneyMatt Lowney is Managing Director of Talent Acquisition at CoreCivic, where he oversees recruitment and HR operations for one of the largest correctional services organizations in the U.S. With more than 20 years of experience in healthcare and corrections hiring, Matt is known for scaling TA infrastructure, driving process improvements, and pushing past industry clichés to build real, people-first strategies that work—no fluff, no filler.Matt Lowney Social Media LinkedIn Website About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 97: Hiring Smarter, Not Harder: Real Talk on Recruiting Challenges with Trisha Degg
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How many times have you opened that dreaded email—“We’ve decided to move forward with someone else”? Was it even written by a real person? An AI bot, maybe? Rejection stings, but silence stings more. So here’s the real question: do candidates deserve better? And are hiring teams truly prepared to give it?In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee is joined by Trisha Degg, Head of Talent Acquisition at Rush Street Interactive, to pull back the curtain on the real state of recruiting today. With a global team and rapid growth (100 hires this year alone across 26 countries), Trisha’s seen what works—and what definitely doesn’t.From implementing hands-on interview training for hiring managers at every physical location, to building systems that actually respect candidates, Trisha shares how she’s helping scale a people-first hiring culture in a high-growth tech environment.But it’s not just about systems. This episode goes deeper—into what it means to build relationships in recruiting. Trisha talks about the power of ongoing networking (hint: job seekers aren’t the only ones who should be doing it), the value of meeting someone new at every event, and the surprisingly overlooked etiquette of LinkedIn. (Ditch the generic connection request.)No fluff, just real talk. Whether you're hiring, job hunting, or rethinking your recruitment strategy, this conversation is packed with the kind of insights that’ll change how you show up—for your team and your candidates. Ready to rethink recruiting? Let’s dive in.In this episode: [00:00:49] Trisha's background and journey into recruitment [00:02:09] Hypergrowth at Rush Street Interactive and industry insights [00:04:11] Parallels between the Great Recession and post-COVID hiring [00:06:19] Dealing with bots and high-volume applicants [00:08:02] Tech, AI adoption, and building safe implementation practices [00:10:48] Addressing misconceptions about AI in the recruiting process [00:11:42] Candidate experience: balancing empathy with tech [00:12:18] Training hiring managers and building interview capability [00:14:46] Why so many managers have never been trained to interview [00:16:13] Behavioral interviewing, legal compliance, and live training [00:18:53] Elevating the recruiter role: from order taker to consultant [00:20:31] Internal mobility and training early-career employees to interview [00:23:21] Why investing in employees pays dividends [00:26:31] Corporate culture, transparency, and candidate trust [00:29:45] How Trisha's network helped shape her career [00:32:24] Networking advice: build connections before you need them [00:34:36] Trisha’s approach to in-person events and effective networking [00:36:46] Burned bridges, missed connections, and managing expectations [00:40:43] Give > take: why generosity in business wins long-term About Trisha DeggTrisha Degg is the Head of Talent Acquisition at Rush Street Interactive, a global online gaming and casino technology company. With two decades of experience spanning agency recruiting, HR leadership, and in-house talent acquisition, Trisha is known for building scalable recruiting operations, training hiring teams, and driving inclusive hiring. She's passionate about empowering recruiters to act as strategic advisors and believes in training both managers and internal candidates to create a culture of thoughtful, human-first hiring.Trisha Degg Social Media LinkedIn X Website About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 96: Candidate Experience Is Broken, Here’s How to Fix It with Cailean Bailey of Design Pickle
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What’s really happening behind the scenes when you hit “apply” on a job posting? Does candidate experience actually impact business results, or is it just a feel-good metric? Today’s episode will make you rethink how hiring really works, whether you’re a recruiter or a job seeker. Joel Lalgee sits down with Cailean Bailey, Head of Global Talent Acquisition at Design Pickle, a creative tech platform with over 550 employees in 15 countries. Cailean drops actionable insights on building candidate experiences that actually matter — and why most companies are getting it wrong.You’ll hear Cailean break down the realities of startup life, including why hiring isn’t about ping-pong tables or equity dreams, but about handling chaos, bringing structure, and delivering business outcomes. She shares how her team uses behavioral competencies like curiosity and adaptability to make smarter hires, and reveals their secret weapon: tracking candidate Net Promoter Scores (NPS). If you’ve ever wondered how to measure real hiring success or get leadership buy-in for better processes, this episode is a goldmine.Stick around as they explore what it really takes to stand out in today’s noisy job market — whether you’re building a team or trying to get hired. Cailean explains why providing feedback, setting expectations, and treating candidates like customers can make you an outlier in the best way possible. Plus, she shares how Design Pickle keeps candidates engaged from application to onboarding, and why companies of any size can implement “surprise and delight” moments without breaking the budget.This episode is brought to you by Interactive EQ, the immersive talent assessment platform that goes beyond the resume. Experience first-person, real-life scenarios that reveal how candidates actually respond—not just what they say. See it in action at interactiveEQ.com and let them know Joel sent you.In this episode:00:01:12 – Meet Cailean Bailey and Her Journey to Design Pickle00:04:53 – Growing Design Pickle During COVID-1900:10:41 – From Soccer Coach to Recruiter: Cailean's Career Pivot00:24:07 – Agency vs. In-House Recruiting Realities00:34:15 – The Hidden Truths About Working in Startups00:39:47 – Measuring Curiosity and Drive in Interviews00:50:25 – Startup Chaos and Proving Yourself on Day One01:03:13 – Candidate NPS: A Game-Changer in Candidate Experience01:15:32 – Why Great Candidate Experience Doesn’t Need Fancy Tools01:25:58 – Connecting Hiring to Business Outcomes and ROI01:39:12 – Why Candidate Experience Is a Marketing Play01:51:47 – Setting Honest Expectations About High-Performance Cultures02:02:17 – Final Thoughts and Where to Connect with Cailean BaileyAbout Cailean BaileyCailean (pronounced Kay-lynn) is the Head of Global Talent Acquisition at Design Pickle, an AI-powered creative platform with a global design workforce. He leads a distributed team that manages 30,000+ applications annually across 14 countries, hiring for roles in Engineering, Product, Marketing, Sales, and Creative.Before recruiting, Cailean was a Division I soccer coach, where he learned to build high-performing teams and guide people through pressure and growth. That mindset now fuels his approach to talent.Outside of work, he’s into F45 workouts, strong coffee, globe-trotting (40+ countries), and waiting—sometimes patiently—for Manchester United’s return to glory.Resource Links Design Pickle Linkedin Design Pickle Official Website About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 95: Recruiting in a Hypergrowth Era, Tackling AI Hiring Fraud, and How Real Networking Wins Jobs with Glenn Lindley
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Ever wondered how recruiters actually land interviews in today’s brutal market? Or what truly makes someone stand out when applying? This episode with Glenn Lindley is packed with raw, honest advice for recruiters and job seekers navigating a hiring world full of ghosted applications, AI-driven fraud, and overwhelming competition. Glenn shares why your network is your real résumé, why authenticity crushes AI-generated messages, and the best moves you can make at in-person events to turn conversations into opportunities.Glenn Lindley, former Director of Talent Acquisition at HighLevel and Pubmatic veteran, dives deep into how he successfully transitioned careers, built strong recruiter communities, and survived the rollercoaster of hypergrowth startups. You’ll hear inside tactics from his global hiring experience, including fighting fraud in remote recruiting and why real human relationships always beat spray-and-pray applications.Plus, we explore how recruiters and job seekers can use AI the right way — not to replace human connection, but to amplify it. Whether you’re job hunting, recruiting, or just trying to stay ahead of the curve, this episode is loaded with actionable insights you can use immediately.In this episode:00:00 — Welcome01:00 — Meet Glenn Lindley: Career Highlights02:00 — Why Glenn Left Pubmatic After a Decade05:30 — Landing Interviews in Today’s Job Market08:00 — Importance of Networking and Recruiter Communities16:00 — How to Approach Networking Events Without Being Awkward24:00 — Starting His Own Recruiter Community34:00 — Fighting AI Fraud in Global Hiring40:00 — How Recruiters Should Be Using AI43:00 — Upcoming Events and Where to Find GlennAbout Glenn LindleyGlenn Lindley is a seasoned talent acquisition leader with over a decade of experience, including scaling Pubmatic through an IPO and leading recruiting at HighLevel. Based in California, Glenn has built a reputation for fostering strong recruiter communities, pioneering effective hiring practices, and staying ahead of tech trends impacting recruiting. He’s a vocal advocate for balancing technology and human connection in the hiring process and actively supports out-of-work recruiters through grassroots community events.Resource Links Glenn Lindley | LinkedIn PeopleTech Partners | Website PubMatic | Website HighLevel | Website About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 94: Scaling Talent Experience with AI, Reinventing Onboarding, and Mastering Interview Training with Sarika Lamont
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What does it really take to build a remote-first culture that actually works — not just one that’s an afterthought? How can AI become your secret weapon without losing the human touch in HR and recruiting? And what does “real candidate experience” even mean today?This week, Joel Lalgee sits down with Sarika Lamont, VP of People and Culture at Vidyard, for an absolute masterclass in recruiting, people leadership, and AI integration. Sarika doesn’t just talk theory — she’s actively leading the AI transformation at Vidyard and shares what companies should be thinking about now to stay competitive and human-centered. From how Vidyard builds intentional remote-first systems, to why documenting everything is critical, and how recruiters are using AI avatars to create a mind-blowing candidate journey, this conversation is pure gold.You’ll walk away with fresh ideas about AI enablement, building strong hiring processes, creating real culture (not just kombucha parties), and why understanding your business deeply is non-negotiable. If you’re a recruiter, talent leader, or job seeker who cares about what’s next, you won’t want to miss this episode with Sarika Lamont.This episode is brought to you by Interactive EQ, the immersive talent assessment platform that goes beyond the resume. Experience first-person, real-life scenarios that reveal how candidates actually respond—not just what they say. See it in action at interactiveEQ.com and let them know Joel sent you. In this episode:00:02 – Introduction and Setting the Stage00:39 – Meet Sarika Lamont and Her Role at Vidyard02:00 – Remote-First vs. Forced Work-From-Home Companies03:31 – Redefining Company Culture Beyond Perks05:00 – Communication and Documentation in a Remote-First Setup07:15 – The Energy Shift for Extroverts in Remote Work08:15 – In-Person Company Events and Growth Strategy10:11 – The Power of Values in Vidyard’s Community11:00 – How to Hire for Culture and ValuesAbout Sarika LamontSarika Lamont is the Vice President of People and Culture at Vidyard, a Canadian-based video platform for business communication. With over two decades of HR and leadership experience, she specialises in talent acquisition, organisational development, and driving strong company culture. Sarika currently leads Vidyard’s transition into a fully remote-first company while focusing on building scalable, people-first strategies.Resource LinksSarika Lamont | LinkedInVidyard | Official WebsiteAbout Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 93: AI vs. Humanity: The Future of Recruitment in Cybersecurity with Anna Taylor
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What if the key to unlocking the future of recruitment lies not in cutting-edge technology, but in the timeless power of human connection? Could AI, with all its promise, actually be widening the gap between recruiters and the candidates they seek? And in a world where side hustles are on the rise and trust is harder to earn, how can recruiters and job seekers alike navigate the ever-shifting landscape of the job market? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, we get real about the challenges and opportunities in the world of talent acquisition. Today, host Joel Lalgee is joined by Anna Taylor, Director of Global Talent Acquisition at Semperis , a leading cybersecurity software vendor. Together, they’re unpacking some of the biggest trends shaping recruitment right now—from the rise of AI tools to the enduring importance of human connection. Anna shares her personal journey into recruitment and why she believes that, despite all the tech advancements, the heart of hiring still comes down to people. They dive into the unique challenges of recruiting in the cybersecurity sector, the impact of hybrid work models, and how to spot fraudulent candidates in an age of increasingly sophisticated scams. But it’s not all about the challenges—Anna and Joel also share practical advice for job seekers, like how to craft a resume that stands out (hint: clarity and authenticity are key) and why networking is still one of the most powerful tools for career growth. Plus, they tackle the rise of side hustles and what it means for employers trying to build trust with their teams. Whether you’re a recruiter, a hiring manager, or someone navigating the job market, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss. Let’s get into it!In this episode:(00:03) – Introduction to the podcast (01:06) – Guest introduction (01:55) – Anna's role at Semperis (02:31) – Team structure and hiring (02:58) – Remote vs. hybrid work preferences (04:14) – Personal experiences with work models (05:36) – Challenges of remote work (09:23) – Recruitment journey (11:30) – Previous experience in HR tech (12:27) – Learning curve in tech recruitment (13:43) – Growth of cybersecurity industry (15:10) – Impact of AI on recruitment (16:45) – The disruption of recruiting (18:02) – The adrenaline rush of placement (19:09) – AI in recruitment tools (20:41) – Fake employees in interviews (21:50) – Identifying fraudulent resumes (22:16) – Consistent LinkedIn profiles (23:16) – Security breaches during hiring (24:24) – Application volume and resume trends (25:16) – What recruiters look for in resumes (26:10) – The importance of professional experience (27:13) – Matching resumes to job descriptions (28:07) – Resume length and relevance (29:25) – Professional summary considerations(29:32) – Understanding candidate potential (30:26) – AI in recruiting challenges (32:09) – Rise of side hustles (33:15) – Screening for side hustles (35:52) – Personal branding and networking (37:25) – Advice for career starters (38:44) – Networking strategies (40:58) – Upcoming events and conferences (41:46) – Connecting with the company (42:48) – Long-term networking About Anna Taylor Anna Taylor is the Director of Global Talent Acquisition at Semperis, a cybersecurity software vendor specializing in hybrid identity protection. Since joining in January 2022, she has played a pivotal role in scaling the company from 140 to 500 employees across multiple global locations. With a background in HR tech and startup environments, Anna brings a deep understanding of talent acquisition, operations, and workforce strategy. She is passionate about building strong recruitment teams, navigating the challenges of global hiring, and ensuring a seamless candidate experience. Anna is also a strong advocate for ethical hiring practices, particularly in an era of AI-driven recruitment and increasing cybersecurity threats.Anna Taylor Social Media LinkedIn Semperis About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 92: Bootcamps: Can They Really Launch Your Tech Career with Daniel Odegaard
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Can bootcamps really transform your tech career? You’ve seen the bold claims—“Land a six-figure tech job in just 12 weeks!” Sounds like a dream, but is it too good to be true? With bootcamps becoming a popular shortcut into tech, it’s time to ask: do they really work, or are they just another overhyped trend? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee chats with Daniel Odegaard, head of talent acquisition at TripleTen, an IT bootcamp. They break down Daniel’s journey from agency to corporate recruiting, offering an insider’s perspective on the differences between the two. More importantly, they dive into the real role of recruiters, the power of candidate coaching, and whether bootcamps actually help people transition into tech careers. Daniel doesn’t sugarcoat things—he talks about the importance of setting clear career goals, managing expectations, and doing your homework before jumping into a bootcamp. They also explore how AI is reshaping customer service, including Klarna’s CEO’s warning that AI could replace human jobs. While AI is great for efficiency, they discuss its shortcomings in empathy, human connection, and customer experience. So, is a bootcamp your ticket to a tech career, or is there more to the story? Tune in to find out! And if you’re serious about breaking into tech, don’t forget to subscribe for more expert insights on navigating the job market.In this episode: (00:03) Introduction to the podcast (00:36) Guest introduction (01:23) Daniel's background (02:10) First job in recruitment (04:45) Transitioning to corporate talent acquisition (06:27) Understanding recruitment incentives (07:34) Recruiters and candidate support (09:13) Value of paid services (10:12) Transitioning into tech (11:27) Advice for job seekers (12:38) Challenges of entering big tech (14:02) Understanding job market dynamics (15:47) Managing expectations in career transitions (17:35) Red flags in recruitment (18:44) Understanding program commitments (20:12) The tech job landscape (21:43) Long-term outlook on tech hiring (23:16) Reality of dream jobs (25:57) Skills for the future (28:40) AI's impact on employment (29:50) Klarna CEO's warning on AI (30:46) Human vs. AI in customer service (32:52) Empathy in customer service (32:19) Quality assurance challenges (33:46) AI’s strengths and limitations (34:59) Skepticism towards AI (35:34) Empathy simulation in AI (36:29) Disconnect in customer service (37:20) Mental health and technology (39:35) The future of human-centric companies (40:08) Rise of smaller companies (41:06) Impact of layoffs on customer relationships (42:25) Cultural shift towards micro communities (43:53) Parenting and technology boundaries (45:47) Disconnect from corporate leadership (47:26) Convenience vs. human connection (49:08) Conclusion and resources About Daniel OdegaardDaniel Odegaard is a senior recruiter at TripleTen, an international company specializing in tech education and career transitions. At TripleTen, Daniel plays a pivotal role in guiding individuals from diverse backgrounds into successful tech careers. His expertise lies in understanding the nuances of both agency and corporate recruitment, allowing him to effectively support candidates through their career transitions.Daniel Odegaard Social Media LinkedIn Website About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 91: How Can Recruitment Thrive in a Tech-Driven World While Maintaining Human Connection with Ginnette Harvey
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In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Ginette Harvey, a seasoned talent acquisition expert with nearly two decades in the industry. Ginette shares her journey from unexpectedly falling into recruitment to leading a multi-million dollar business, launching her own diversity consultancy, and now building a global blockchain talent acquisition company.The conversation dives deep into the power of human connection in an AI-driven world, the importance of social selling, and how recruitment businesses must pivot in the face of changing technology. Ginette also opens up about the challenges of scaling a company, hiring the right talent, and why she believes business success boils down to having a solid, repeatable formula.And of course, we couldn’t ignore the latest buzz in the business world! Joel and Ginette unpack Elon Musk’s controversial email demanding federal employees justify their jobs, the shifting dynamics of leadership, and Klarna’s embarrassing AI blunder—where the company laid off two-thirds of its customer service team, only to realize humans are still essential.If you’re in recruiting, leadership, or just love a good industry shake-up, this episode is packed with insights, laughs, and a no-nonsense look at where work is headed.In this episode:(00:00:03) Introduction to the Podcast(00:01:03) Guest Introduction(00:01:45) Ginette’s Recruitment Journey(00:02:58) Setting Up a U.S. Business(00:03:22) Transition to Consulting(00:04:24) Global Nature of Blockchain(00:06:06) Importance of Human Connection(00:06:52) AI's Impact on Recruitment(00:08:16) Building Relationships Post-Pandemic(00:09:20) Adaptability in Recruitment(00:11:05) Success Formula in Recruitment(00:13:01) Hiring Practices and Turnover(00:15:35) Market Challenges and Opportunities(00:16:56) Adapting Business Development Strategies(00:18:43) Agility in Business(00:19:53) News Discussion: Elon Musk's Email(00:20:54) The Importance of Motivation in the Workplace(00:22:32) The Impact of Leadership Styles(00:26:26) The Role of AI in Customer Service(00:27:23) Reality Check on AI Chatbots(00:30:05) Balancing AI and Human Interaction(00:35:37) The Value of Human Connections(00:37:17) Guiding Principles for Relationship Building(00:39:11) The Lost Art of Adding Value(00:40:13) Upcoming Events in Blockchain and AI(00:41:01) Connecting with Jeanette(00:41:22) Closing Remarks(00:41:54) Final ThoughtsAbout Ginnette HarveyGinnette Harvey is a seasoned recruitment entrepreneur with over 17 years of experience in the staffing industry. In 2021, she co-founded BlocHaus, a leading blockchain recruitment firm dedicated to connecting exceptional talent with pioneering organizations in the blockchain sector.Prior to founding BlocHaus, Ginnette played a pivotal role in the growth of SThree's North American business, serving as a founding member and ascending to the executive team and U.S. board during her 15-year tenure. In 2021, she launched Harper & Gray, a company committed to helping organizations diversify their workforce and promote diversity, equity, and inclusion (DE&I) in the workplace. Recognized for her contributions to the staffing industry, Ginnette was named one of the top 100 most influential leaders in staffing in North America by Staffing Industry Analysts. She also serves on the Women's Leadership Council for the American Staffing Association and is a certified professional coach.Through her ventures, Ginnette continues to drive positive change by fostering inclusive environments and connecting top talent with forward-thinking companies.About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Ginnette Harvey Social Media LinkedIn Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 90: Recruitment’s Dark Secret: The Truth About Ghost Jobs & AI
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Have you ever applied for the perfect job, only to realize it never really existed?What if the job market isn’t just competitive—but haunted? Across job boards and career sites, ghost jobs linger—positions that were never meant to be filled or were quietly abandoned by companies. But job seekers aren’t the only ones being deceived. Fake candidate profiles are also flooding the market, leaving recruiters chasing applicants who don’t exist.These digital phantoms—jobs and candidates alike—waste time, drain energy, and blur the line between reality and illusion. Are you applying for a job that was never real? Or are recruiters screening candidates who don’t even exist?In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Stephen McGrath, Product Experience Manager at Poetry, to uncover the truth about ghost jobs and their impact on candidates. With over 15 years in recruitment—spanning agency, RPO, and in-house roles—Stephen shares deep industry insights, breaking down the role of RPO and ATS systems, the rise of AI in hiring, and the growing disconnect between companies and job seekers.Joel and Stephen also tackle the recruitment industry’s biggest challenges—including layoffs, technology shifts, and the often misunderstood role of recruiters. They explore how humor, authenticity, and video content can reshape recruiters’ reputations while bridging the gap between candidates and employers. From harsh candidate feedback to the realities of modern hiring, this episode dives deep into the evolving world of recruitment—offering transparency, empathy, and a fresh perspective on the future of hiring.In this episode:(00:00:03) – Introduction to the episode(00:01:06) – Guest introduction: Stephen McGrath(00:02:04) – Understanding RPO(00:03:34) – Role of ATS(00:03:37) – Overview of Canada ID(00:04:39) – Introduction to ghost jobs(00:05:56) – Candidate experience issues(00:07:22) – Overview of Poetry(00:08:58) – AI in recruitment(00:09:50) – Evaluating AI tools(00:12:32) – Challenges in recruitment processes(00:17:54) – Trends in contract work(00:19:23) – Recruitment technology insights(00:20:08) – Job market dynamics(00:20:48) – Layoff patterns(00:21:48) – Transparency in business(00:23:01) – Employee loyalty and stability(00:24:03) – Cultural misrepresentation(00:25:32) – Recruiter challenges(00:27:39) – Caring in recruitment(00:29:02) – Career guidance initiatives(00:29:56) – The recruiter's care(00:30:50) – Recruiters' bad rap(00:31:27) – Hurtful comments(00:31:52) – Disgruntled candidate reads(00:32:37) – Changing the narrative(00:33:21) – Authenticity in recruitment(00:34:44) – Video content focus(00:36:37) – Humor in recruitment(00:37:54) – Connecting with candidates(00:40:07) – Final thoughts and adviceAbout Stephen McGrathStephen McGrath is a seasoned recruitment professional and technology innovator based in Glasgow, Scotland. With over 15 years of experience in the industry, he has worked across agency, RPO, and in-house recruitment before transitioning into recruitment technology. Stephen played a key role in building Canada ID, which was later acquired by Isomers. Now, as the product experience manager at Poetry, he focuses on gathering feedback and refining technology to enhance the recruitment process. Passionate about improving recruiter efficiency, Stephen continues to bridge the gap between recruitment and cutting-edge technology.Stephen McGrath Social Media LinkedIn Website About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 89: The Silent Takeover: Is AI Killing Human Connection in Hiring?
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Have you ever wondered if the increasing reliance on AI in hiring is slowly eroding the very human touch that makes recruitment so personal? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Jessica Begley, COO of Very, to explore key topics such as recruitment trends, employee engagement, and the role of AI in the workforce. Jessica shares her journey from Chief People Officer to Chief Operating Officer and emphasizes the importance of treating employees as individuals. The discussion covers strategies for engaging a remote workforce, the risks of AI implementation, and the crucial need for upskilling in the evolving job market. They also address recent layoffs at Workday and Meta, underscoring the emotional toll and the need for transparent communication. The conversation delves into job market segmentation, discussing the challenges faced by skilled workers, wisdom workers, and knowledge workers, while also addressing issues like overqualification for entry-level roles and the impact of job report revisions on economic decisions. Finally, they offer practical advice for job seekers on the power of networking and building meaningful professional relationships.In this episode:(00:00:03) Introduction to the episode(00:01:38) Guest introduction(00:03:03) Jessica's career journey(00:04:41) Importance of people in business(00:09:26) Engagement strategies(00:10:38) Creating a people-centric culture(00:13:45) Intentionality in engagement(00:15:34) Recent layoffs discussion(00:16:01) Impact of AI on jobs(00:17:56) Identifying replaceable jobs(00:19:33) AI in corporate strategy(00:20:18) Implications of AI on workforce(00:21:12) Upskilling employees(00:22:14) Zapier's hiring philosophy(00:23:40) Meta layoffs and employee perception(00:24:20) Communication and transparency issues(00:25:31) Skill set definition challenges(00:29:57) Understanding job segmentation(00:30:03) Challenges for wisdom workers(00:30:41) Networking for executive roles(00:31:10) The role of knowledge workers(00:32:01) Job growth analysis(00:33:01) Hiring challenges in trades(00:34:15) Overqualification issues(00:34:36) Job report revisions(00:36:03) Economic decisions impact(00:37:07) Interconnected economic systems(00:38:28) Government worker exits(00:39:09) Networking advice(00:41:27) Long game mentality in networking(00:42:23) In-person interaction opportunities(00:43:09) Sustainable networking practices(00:45:24) Closing remarksAbout Jessica BegleyJessica Begley is the COO of Very, a leading provider of IoT hardware services. With a diverse background in human resources, Jessica transitioned from Chief People Officer to Chief Operating Officer, bringing her expertise in people management, employee engagement, and organizational development. She is passionate about fostering people-centric cultures and navigating the evolving landscape of technology and recruitment.Jessica Begley Social Media LinkedIn Website About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 88: The Evolution of Recruitment: From Rolodexes to AI with Matt Pietsch
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A job seeker submits their application. They wait. And wait. But there’s no call, no email—just silence. What they don’t know is that their fate was sealed in milliseconds, judged by AI-driven algorithms they’ll never see, for reasons they’ll never understand.Are we witnessing a revolution that will elevate recruitment to new heights? Or are we on the verge of losing the human touch in hiring forever? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Matt Pietsch to unravel the truth behind recruitment’s rapid evolution.With decades of experience in human capital management, Matt has seen it all—the rise of cutting-edge HR tech, the fragmentation of applicant tracking systems, and the growing pains of an industry struggling to keep up with change. But with AI transforming hiring at an unprecedented pace, one question looms large: Are we making recruitment more efficient, or are we losing the personal touch that truly makes a difference?Matt and Joel dive deep into the current job market, exposing the hidden challenges candidates face and the technology gaps recruiters must overcome. Can a more unified system bring order to the chaos? And in a world where automation is king, how do we keep genuine human relationships at the heart of hiring?But that’s not all. The debate over remote work versus returning to the office is more intense than ever. How do companies measure productivity fairly? Are younger workers really craving in-person collaboration, or is flexibility the ultimate key to success? And what about working parents—how can they navigate a workforce that wasn’t built with them in mind?With fresh insights, bold predictions, and a no-nonsense look at the future of human capital management, this episode is a must-listen. The future of work is changing—are you ready to adapt? Let’s dive in!In this episode:(00:03) Introduction to the episode(01:12) Guest introduction(01:48) Matt's background in recruitment(02:01) Early recruitment experience(02:45) Client relationships in recruitment(03:15) Volume of calls in early career(04:32) Evolution of recruiter value(06:00) Face-to-face interactions in recruitment(07:21) Progression in Matt's career(08:26) Experience with startups(09:33) Understanding HR tech landscape(11:09) Innovation in ATS market(13:16) Total talent management concept(14:48) AI's impact on recruitment(15:29) Candidate experience challenges(17:18) Human interaction in recruiting(19:13) Disconnect in recruitment processes(20:14) The evolution of recruitment technology(21:36) The future of recruitment staffing(22:00) The impact of technology on human interaction(23:39) The importance of face-to-face interaction(24:36) Building an offline brand(25:37) Value over discounts in sales(26:06) Shifting focus to value in job applications(28:00) ROI in employment relationships(29:09) Changing dynamics of job security(29:40) Discussion on remote work(30:45) Deferred resignation announcement(31:47) Flexibility in work environments(32:42) Measuring productivity(33:36) Remote work benefits(34:36) Young workers' preferences(35:33) Impact of return-to-office mandates(36:34) Corporate decision-making(37:15) Commuting challenges(38:53) Childcare challenges(40:14) Measuring productivity challenges(41:05) Outlook for hiring market in 2025(42:32) Networking opportunities(43:09) Closing remarksAbout Matt PietschMatt Pietsch is a C-Suite Executive, CRO / CSO / Advisor, with over 25 years of experience in Human Capital Management, HRTech, and innovative SaaS products businesses. He is a proven business transformer, revenue accelerator, and creator of exceptional shareholder value. Whether in a situation that requires restructuring, turnaround, accelerating a successful business, revamping the go-to-market strategy, or global expansion, he positions companies for success, including exit.Matt Pietsch Social Media LinkedIn Website About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Mentioned Article on Human Capital Management / HR Tech Recruiting Market HR Tech Conferences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 87: The Greatest Disconnect: Corporate Profits vs. Employee Satisfaction
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Recent Gallup findings show employee engagement is at its lowest in a decade, even worse than during the pandemic. In this thought-provoking episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Josh Drean, co-author of "Employment is Dead: How Disruptive Technologies are Revolutionizing the Way We Work." Together, they dive deep into the seismic shifts reshaping the modern workplace, from the lingering effects of the "Great Resignation" and "Quiet Quitting" to the growing chasm between corporate profits and employee compensation.Josh and Joel explore the critical role of employee experience design in fostering engagement and retention, particularly as younger generations redefine their relationships with work. They challenge traditional corporate practices, arguing that companies must prioritize employee well-being and adapt to evolving workforce expectations to thrive in the long term.The conversation takes a hard look at the pitfalls of traditional employee engagement surveys, using a striking example of employees being fired after an "anonymous" feedback session. This underscores the urgent need for trust, transparency, and actionable change in workplace culture.Looking ahead, Josh and Joel envision a future of work powered by decentralized, skill-based employment models enabled by web3 technologies. They discuss how these innovations could democratize opportunities and redefine the employer-employee relationship.The episode wraps up with Josh sharing insights from his book and promoting his upcoming events, while Joel encourages listeners to join the conversation and rethink the future of work. Let’s dive in! In this episode:(00:00:03) Introduction to the Episode(00:01:36) Guest Introduction(00:02:20) Overview of the Book(00:02:50) Employee Engagement Trends(00:03:55) Reflection on 2021(00:05:57) Employee Experience Design(00:07:18) Culture vs. Employee Satisfaction(00:08:34) Short-Term Gains vs. Workforce Needs(00:09:58) Shifts in Employee Mindset(00:11:10) Rise of Content Creation(00:12:50) Bank CEO Salaries vs. Employee Raises(00:13:08) Employee Frustrations at JPMorgan Chase(00:15:55) The Contractual Nature of Employment(00:16:56) Resentment in the Workforce(00:17:54) Job Market Realities(00:18:04) Employee Retention vs. Engagement(00:19:37) HR Limitations and Automation(00:20:18) Diversity and Inclusion News(00:21:31) Impact of Political Changes on D&I(00:22:05) Equity in the Workplace(00:23:26) Generational Divide in HR Perspectives(00:24:24) Corporate Compliance and D&I Efforts(00:26:38) Public Perception of D&I Value(00:28:04) Future of D&I Over the Next Four Years(00:28:42) Rise of the Gig Economy(00:29:50) The Importance of Trust in Employee Surveys(00:30:16) The Consequences of Honesty(00:31:42) The Disconnect in Workplace Culture(00:32:40) Employee Expectations vs. Reality(00:34:57) The Creator Economy as a Model(00:39:44) The Future of Work and Decentralization(00:41:06) Skill Verification and Employment Dynamics(00:44:04) The Role of Education in Freelancing(00:45:12) Promoting Engagement and ConnectionAbout Josh DreanJosh Drean is a visionary leader in the future of work, employee experience, and decentralized work models. As a co-author of "Employment is Dead", Josh challenges traditional workplace paradigms and advocates for innovative approaches to employee engagement and satisfaction. With a deep understanding of the evolving work landscape, he explores how emerging technologies, such as web3 and the gig economy, are reshaping the way we work and connect.Josh is passionate about empowering individuals to thrive in decentralized work environments and is a strong proponent of skill verification and education as tools for success in the modern economy. Through his thought leadership, speaking engagements, and writing, Josh inspires organizations and individuals to rethink work culture, embrace equity, and build trust in the workplace.About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media● LinkedIn● Website● Instagram● TikTok ● X (formerly Twitter Josh Drean Social Media● LinkedIn● Website MentionedBook: Employment Is Dead: How Disruptive Technologies Are Revolutionizing the Way We Work Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 86: Recruiting Top Talent in Government & Defense Tech with Tommy Weinert of Mount Indie
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Have you ever wondered what it takes to land a job in GovTech or defense tech? In this season-opening episode of Recruiting is No Joke host Joel Lalgee sits down with Tommy Weinert, recruitment lead and founder of Mount Indie, a dynamic agency specializing in government and defense tech recruiting. Tommy shares his unique journey into the world of clearance jobs, focusing on recruiting top-tier engineering talent for roles that require security clearances. From his beginnings in audiovisuals to now leading a thriving recruitment agency, Tommy reflects on the importance of speaking up, seizing opportunities, and adapting in a fast-paced, competitive industry.The conversation takes a deeper dive into the complexities of recruiting within a small, specialized candidate pool and how Mount Indie’s success stems from actively listening to clients and tailoring solutions. Tommy also opens up about the challenges of balancing confidence and imposter syndrome, emphasizing the value of taking risks for personal and career growth.But that’s not all. The episode explores some hot-button topics in today’s professional landscape, including diversity, equity, and inclusion (DE&I). The speakers examine the often-polarizing nature of DE&I discussions and how these conversations carry emotional weight in the workplace. They also touch on the appropriateness of sharing political views on LinkedIn, with a LinkedIn poll revealing that most respondents believe political discourse should be avoided on the platform. These reflections spark a larger conversation on maintaining professionalism while navigating sensitive topics in today’s digital world.Additionally, Tommy and Joel offer valuable job-seeking advice, emphasizing the importance of applying directly through company websites rather than relying solely on LinkedIn. This strategic approach, they argue, can significantly enhance engagement with potential employers and improve a candidate’s chances of standing out in a crowded job market.Tune in for a candid and insightful episode packed with actionable advice, career wisdom, and a fresh perspective on recruitment in a rapidly evolving world. Whether you’re a job seeker or an agency leader, this episode offers essential tips for navigating the complexities of today’s recruiting landscape.In this episode:(00:03) Introduction to the podcast(00:36) Announcement of new format(02:32) Guest introduction: Tommy Weinert(03:00) Insight into clearance jobs(04:03) Working with government contractors(04:20) Tommy's journey into recruitment(06:07) Imposter syndrome discussion(08:52) Starting own recruitment agency(10:11) Agency structure and growth(12:02) Current events and TikTok discussion(12:56) TikTok's ban and national security(14:01) Tommy's experience with TikTok(15:24) Mixed signals about TikTok(17:39) Reflections on data security(19:03) The impact of TikTok layoffs(19:36) Reactions to LinkedIn controversy(20:51) The risks of platform dependency(22:24) The need for content creation skills(24:11) Federal workers returning to office(25:12) Remote work trends post-COVID(26:24) Conflicting views on office return(27:09) Speculation on workforce reduction(28:14) Federal employee remote work statistics(29:19) Predictions for candidate pool chaos(29:53) DE&I polarization(31:42) Emotional nature of D&I(33:59) LinkedIn poll on politics(35:31) Impact of political discussions(36:27) Nuance in political conversations(40:45) Job-seeking strategies(42:41) Recruitment system disconnectAbout Tommy WeinertTommy Weinert is the founder and president of Mount Indie, specializing in national security recruitment since 2008. His unique approach to recruiting focuses on aligning strategies with a company's goals, creatively enhancing talent, and streamlining processes. He also founded ShadowLabs, training recruiters in the cleared space. Tommy is a recognized expert, serving on the Advisory Panel for ClearanceJobs and speaking at key industry events like Sourcecon and Talent42.About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Tommy Weinert Social Media LinkedIn Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 85: Why Return-to-Office Policies Are Failing: Dell’s Latest Misstep and Empathy in Layoffs
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Is the return-to-office trend finally losing steam? In this week’s episode, Joel Lalgee tackles a growing corporate misstep as companies like Dell struggle with flawed return-to-office policies that penalize parents and strain employee well-being. You’ll also hear a rare, heartwarming layoff story—yes, you read that right! Joel highlights how empathy can turn even the toughest moments into opportunities for growth.As Gen Z loses faith in traditional college paths, there’s a growing movement towards skilled trades. Joel dives into why more young people are choosing hands-on careers and how industries like construction are evolving to meet the demand. Plus, if you’re juggling multiple jobs or considering a side hustle, you’re not alone. Joel breaks down the rise in multi-job holders and what it means for the future of the workforce.Tune in for raw takes on the future of work, the return of layoffs, and why flexibility isn’t just a perk—it’s a necessity. Whether you’re a recruiter, job seeker, or curious about the trends reshaping work, this episode offers insights that will keep you ahead of the curve.In this episode:00:04: Introduction to the episode00:37: Overview of the week's episode01:07: Meet the host, Joel Algee01:35: New segment announcement and how to stay in touch02:27: Sponsor message: Source Whale03:58: Feel-good moment: Layoff with empathy08:21: Thoughts on the return to office policies13:42: Dell's childcare policy controversy16:20: Final thoughts and call for feedback16:36: Teens losing faith in college and rise in skilled trades17:28: Rise in Vocational Programs20:26: Introduction to Multiple Job Holders22:31: Conclusion and Closing RemarksAbout Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter This episode is brought to you by Sourcewhale, the ultimate platform for streamlining your recruitment process and connecting with top talent efficiently. Discover how Sourcewhale can transform your hiring strategy and empower your team to thrive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 84: Why Job Seekers Struggle in 2024: Networking Tips, Market Realities, and What Economists Keep Getting Wrong with Joel Lalgee
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Are you a job seeker trying to find your way in today’s tricky job market? Let’s be real—networking can feel like the magic key to unlocking career opportunities, right? But with so many people competing for the same roles, what challenges are you bumping into? And how has remote work changed the game for us all?In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee dives into the ever-changing landscape of recruitment and job searching. He highlights the vital role of networking and shares insights from the recent Breakfast USA event in Nashville. Joel also tackles the current job market hurdles, touching on a viral story about Summer Meyers’ unconventional LinkedIn strategy. He sheds light on economic narratives that often overlook the real struggles faced by job seekers and discusses the effects of return-to-office mandates.The episode goes further to explore generational workplace dynamics, the redefinition of professionalism, and the value of mentorship. Joel encourages you to think outside the box when job hunting.Ready to unlock your career potential? Tune in and discover strategies to help you stand out in this competitive landscape!In this episode: (00:03) Introduction to the episode (00:37) Live event experience (01:12) Value of networking (04:26) Viral job search story (08:01) Job market dynamics (10:43) Return to office mandate (13:46) Employee sentiment on office return (17:21) Generational workplace issues (19:15) Generational perspectives on professionalism (21:37) Mentorship in the workplace (22:35) Defining professionalism (23:31) Engagement with the audience (24:19) Podcast wrap-up and future plans About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Resource Links Summer Meyers' LinkedIn Profile Yahoo Article on Job Market This episode is brought to you by Sourcewhale, the ultimate platform for streamlining your recruitment process and connecting with top talent efficiently. Discover how Sourcewhale can transform your hiring strategy and empower your team to thrive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 83: Talent Acquisition in 2025 and Beyond with Amy Cropper, Asud Anderson, and Brian Fink - Live from RecFest USA 2024 Part 2
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Ready to dive deep into recruitment strategies and tech innovations that are shaping talent acquisition? In this special episode recorded live at RecFest USA, Joel Lalgee sits down with Amy Cropper from TriCentis, Asud Anderson from Equinix, and Brian Fink from McAfee. You’ll hear unfiltered insights on how these leaders are using AI to revolutionize sourcing, build global talent pipelines, and address the ever-changing landscape of recruiting.Brian Fink kicks things off by sharing how McAfee’s AI-driven deepfake detection is enhancing tech hiring and protecting digital identities. He emphasizes the value of staying excited in the recruiting field and the impact of building tech teams aligned with a strong mission. Amy Cropper then delves into strategies for transforming hiring at a scaling B2B company, sharing candid advice on navigating challenges when budgets are tight, and the power of transparency in attracting top talent.Asad Anderson wraps up by exploring how Equinix manages global sourcing through personalized outreach, data-driven strategies, and the art of building trust with passive candidates. He shares practical tips for crafting authentic employer branding and ensuring your EVP resonates across diverse global markets. Don’t miss these actionable takeaways and expert perspectives on what’s next in talent acquisition!In this episode:00:00:04: Introduction to the episode00:00:37: Recap of last week's live interviews00:01:20: Introduction of guests for this episode00:02:04: Live from RecFest USA00:02:22: Interview with Brian Fink from McAfee Security00:02:57: Discussion on the September surge in recruitment00:03:30: Brian Fink on McAfee's new deep fake detector00:04:41: Insights from RecFest and the importance of D&I00:05:47: Recruitment marketing and employer branding00:06:34: Strategies for building community in recruitment marketing00:08:43: How to start with content creation for talent leaders00:09:36: Using mediums like Medium for engaging developers00:10:41: Employer branding mistakes and using video00:12:13: Crafting job descriptions and storytelling00:13:47: Future of recruitment skills and technology00:15:51: Introduction to AI and Personalization00:16:13: Strategies for Authentic Communication00:17:15: Techniques for Personal Video Messaging00:17:33: Predictions for 2025 in Hiring00:19:01: Where to Find Brian Fink Online00:21:45: Introduction to Amy Cropper from TriCentis00:23:41: Discussing AI at RecFest00:24:39: Automating Basic Recruiting Tasks00:25:03: Use Cases and AI in Recruiting00:26:12: Transformations at TriCentis00:26:55: Preparing for Future Growth00:27:49: Key Strategies for New Leadership Roles00:29:16: Engaging Candidates with a Growth Story00:30:31: Honest Conversations About Startups00:30:33: Discussion on layoffs and the unpredictability of the job market00:31:01: Advice on personal development and networking for job seekers00:31:23: Growing a company in uncertain times00:31:30: Thoughts and predictions for the talent acquisition space in 202500:32:21: Strategies for optimizing existing resources00:33:03: Benefits of networking and attending conferences00:33:54: Changes observed in conferences compared to the previous year00:34:08: Anticipation for upcoming conference sessions00:34:40: Introduction to Asud Anderson and the company Equinix00:36:11: Trends in global hiring and the commoditization of job searches00:37:24: Research and data-driven approach to sourcing talent00:38:36: Targeted sourcing and defining the role of sourcing00:40:14: Managing and expanding global talent pools00:41:13: Authentic messaging and employer brand00:42:38: Importance of an individualized candidate experience00:43:37: Maintaining authenticity and continuous candidate engagement00:44:47: Personalizing AI Messages00:45:41: Importance of Analytics in Recruitment00:47:13: Unique AI Use Case - Covey00:49:01: Big Bet for 2025 in Talent Acquisition00:51:19: Connecting with Asud Anderson00:52:12: Closing Remarks********************************************************This episode is brought to you by Built In. As the premier online community for national startups and tech companies, Built In connects you with exciting startup job opportunities, the latest tech news, and events happening in the national tech scene.Resources Amy Cropper Asud Anderson Brian Fink TriCentis Equinix McAfee Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Learn more about your ad choices. 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Episode 82: The Future of Employer Branding and Recruitment with Maria Katris, Tannum Sullivan, and Celinda Appleby - Live from RecFest USA 2024 Part 1
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Did you know that your employer brand could be the game-changer in attracting top talent today? In the latest episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee dives into the exciting world of employer branding with insights from industry pros like Maria Katris (Built In), Tannum Sullivan(Golden Hippo), and Celinda Appleby (Visa).Broadcasting live from Breakfast USA in Nashville, Joel and his guests discuss how recruitment has transformed from a simple transaction to a savvy marketing strategy. Maria highlights how candidates are now doing their homework on companies just like they would when making a big purchase. This makes building brand awareness and keeping potential candidates engaged super important, even when you're not hiring.Tannum shares why it’s crucial for recruiters to focus on building real relationships with candidates. Personal touches and valuable content can make all the difference!Celinda chimes in on the need for authenticity in employer branding, reminding us that what you promise during recruitment should align with the actual employee experience. Authentic stories and consistent messaging are key to winning trust.Want to know how AI fits into all this? Tune in to Recruiting is No Joke and don’t forget to subscribe for more insights on navigating the future of recruiting!In this episode:(00:36) Live interviews at Breakfast USA(02:25) Maria Katris introduction(03:14) Recruitment as marketing(05:13) Candidate awareness and engagement(06:48) Shifting mindsets in recruitment(08:54) Challenges in implementing new strategies(10:21) Building community and talent pools(14:01) Global recruitment trends(16:26) Content creation for global markets(18:02) Authenticity in employer branding(18:17) Employer engagement through raw video(19:14) Market differences in recruitment(19:52) Future of recruitment technology(20:42) Resources for recruiters(21:14) Power of video content(22:05) Introduction to Golden Hippo(23:39) Building employer brand from scratch(24:27) Impact of employer branding on hiring(24:50) Getting leadership buy-in(26:10) Measuring employer branding success(27:22) Common employer branding mistakes(28:45) Authenticity in employer branding(31:10) AI in employer branding(33:04) Pitfalls of using AI(34:34) Encouraging employee participation(35:41) Employer branding and career videos(36:52) Recruitment strategy integration(37:27) Finding Golden Hippo(38:43) Future of recruitment marketing(39:44) Using Gen AI in recruitment(41:02) Common employer branding mistakes(41:58) Balancing aspirational and authentic branding(43:23) Focus group strategies(44:20) Leadership challenges in recruitment(45:00) Talent attraction metrics(45:35) Team structure in talent attraction(46:08) Video content in recruitment(47:52) Future of employer branding(49:04) Tracking candidate journeyMaria Katris Social Media LinkedIn Built In Tannum Sullivan Social Media LinkedIn Golden Hippo Celinda Appleby Social Media LinkedIn Visa This episode is brought to you by Built In. As the premier online community for national startups and tech companies, Built In connects you with exciting startup job opportunities, the latest tech news, and events happening in the national tech scene.About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 81: Job Hunting Struggles and Market Realities: Breaking Down the Numbers with Joel Lalgee
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Are we truly witnessing job growth, or is it just another statistical illusion? The U.S. August jobs report claims 142,000 new positions and a dip in unemployment to 4.2%, but can we really trust these figures? Is the much-anticipated September surge on the horizon, or simply wishful thinking? And why are recruiter job postings climbing when so many Australians are taking on multiple jobs just to get by? Could this be a sign of economic resilience—or a red flag we’re overlooking?In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke host Joel Lalgee takes a closer look at the August jobs report, questioning the accuracy of the numbers and warning that revisions could be coming. He challenges the idea that 142,000 jobs were actually created and stresses the importance of digging deeper into the data for a clearer understanding of the job market.Joel also explores the emotional toll job searching can take, sharing the struggles of job seekers who face rejection after countless applications. He offers practical advice on staying resilient and tips for those labeled "overqualified" to better tailor their applications and showcase their true value.Wrapping up, Joel discusses the growing trend of people in Australia balancing multiple jobs and the risk of burnout that comes with it. Curious to know what these trends mean for your career or business? Tune in to Recruiting is No Joke, and don’t forget to subscribe for more insights on navigating today’s complex job market!In this episode:(01:16) August jobs report discussion(01:46) August jobs report video(02:53) Job market skepticism(03:36) Job seeker experiences video(05:28) Job search challenges highlighted(06:35) Analysis of job types added(08:32) Understanding unemployment rate(10:12) Critique of common job search advice(12:07) Job market realities(13:55) Economic overview and layoffs to cut costs(14:53) Introduction to September surge(16:29) Reality check on September surge(18:39) Conclusion on job market trends(19:27) Discussing the August jobs report(21:14) Emerging job trends in Australia(22:08) Impact of extra jobs on workers(23:40) Closing remarks and future topicsAbout Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Resources Video: US Adds 142,000 Jobs in August, Unemployment Rate 4.2% Greglangstaff September Surge Video Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 80: Job Offer Scams, Career Cushioning, and Labor Strikes with Joel Lalgee
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Have you ever wondered how a seemingly thriving workplace could conceal a tragedy, or if your job security is at risk due to layoffs and deceptive scams? What if a radical shift like a four-day workweek could transform our work lives, or if massive strikes signal a desperate need for change in how we treat our workforce?In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee explores pivotal stories and trends affecting the recruitment industry. He begins with a tragic case where a Wells Fargo employee was found dead at her desk after four days, sparking a critical discussion about corporate culture and employee well-being. Joel then introduces "career cushioning," a proactive strategy for preparing for potential layoffs, and offers practical advice on effective networking. He also touches on the recent Labor Day strikes in U.S. hotels, highlighting growing concerns over worker conditions and their broader industry impact. Additionally, Joel examines Japan's potential move to a four-day workweek and raises awareness about job offer scams. Throughout the episode, Joel incorporates personal anecdotes with industry insights, urging listeners to stay informed and take control of their careers.In this episode:(02:15) Wells Fargo tragedy(05:13) Career cushioning (08:05) Networking strategies(13:32) Four-day workweek in Japan(16:16) Job offer scams warning(18:05) Labor Day strike(18:58) Hospitality worker shortage(19:52) Teaching job challenges(20:44) Healthcare worker issues(21:36) Manufacturing job realities(22:30) Need for better job incentives(23:20) AI and automation in the workforce(24:04) Wrap-up and future topicsAbout Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Resources News Article: Wells Fargo Employee Found Dead Japan's Four-Day Workweek Proposal News Article: Labor Day Strikes in U.S. Hotels This episode is brought to you by Sourcewhale, the ultimate platform for streamlining your recruitment process and connecting with top talent efficiently. Discover how Sourcewhale can transform your hiring strategy and empower your team to thrive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 79: Is the Job Market as Strong as It Seems with Joel Lalgee
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Did you know that the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has overestimated job numbers by nearly a million since March? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee discusses the job market, recruitment practices, and job seekers' challenges. He begins by thanking listeners for their support following the podcast's rebranding, which boosted downloads. Joel then critiques the Bureau of Labor Statistics for overestimating job numbers, highlighting the tougher-than-reported job market. He also explores "ghost jobs," where companies post openings without intent to hire, causing frustration for job seekers. Joel emphasizes the importance of realistic expectations and encourages proactive job searching.In this episode: (00:03) Introduction and rebranding (01:13) Job market statistics (02:24) The reality of job market (03:22) Playing a video on job market (06:06) Interest rates and job market validation (07:46) Concept of ghost jobs (09:06) Pipelining strategy (13:26) Recruiter poll on ghost jobs (17:05) Job application strategies (19:01) The great resignation prediction (19:52) Counter offers on the rise (20:41) Job market shift (21:35) Future hiring trends (25:03) September surge discussion (27:38) Expectations for job seekers (30:31) Engagement and feedback invitation (31:24) Upcoming events and live sessions About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter This episode is brought to you by Sourcewhale, the ultimate platform for streamlining your recruitment process and connecting with top talent efficiently. Discover how Sourcewhale can transform your hiring strategy and empower your team to thrive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 78: The Role of AI in the Future of Recruitment with Benjamin Mena
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Have you ever wondered how recruiters tackle the tough world of government contracting? Imagine the pressure of matching candidates to roles that require top security clearances, all while dealing with a job market that's anything but straightforward.In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Benjamin Mena, the founder of Select Source Solutions and host of the Elite Recruiter Podcast. They dive deep into the latest trends in recruitment, with a particular focus on the government contracting sector. Benjamin shares his insights on the challenges of filling specialized positions within government jobs and the complexities that arise with the USA Jobs portal.They also discuss the impact of AI on recruitment processes and job security, offering a glimpse into the future of recruitment roles as technology continues to evolve. The conversation shifts to the ongoing trend of layoffs in the tech industry, exploring its implications for both recruiters and job seekers.Benjamin emphasizes the importance of networking and uncovering hidden job markets, while also touching on the role of corporate culture and identity in job satisfaction and layoffs. The discussion also covers the evolving role of cover letters and why job seekers need to be proactive and adaptable in today’s job market.Tune in to gain valuable insights and strategies to enhance your recruitment efforts.In this episode: (01:29) Benjamin's background (02:44) Content creation discussion (04:40) Government contracting insights (05:25) Talent supply and demand (06:39) Challenges in government job applications (07:34) Remote work and government jobs (08:14) Corporate office space dynamics (09:59) Layoffs in the tech industry (11:00) Impact of AI on employment (12:03) Recruiting efficiency through AI (13:29) Future of recruiting teams (14:47) Short-term focus of companies (16:44) Market predictions and economic outlook (17:17) Impact of debt on layoffs (17:32) AI's role in layoffs (18:06) Fear of job loss (19:11) Cultural impact of layoffs (19:36) Corporate cost-cutting measures (20:35) Corporate culture and profit (21:10) Identity and work (21:39) Preparing for layoffs (22:14) Balancing work and life (22:42) Remote work and cost of living (23:40) Cover letters discussion (25:39) Hiring managers' views on cover letters (26:59) Poll on cover letters (30:32) AI in job applications (31:12) Interview AI tools (32:04) Recruitment challenges (33:03) Understanding the numbers game (33:55) The dangers of "one itis" (34:35) Maintaining a recruitment pipeline (36:47) Hidden job market insights (37:43) Job market realities (38:28) Effective LinkedIn outreach (40:07) Recruiters' true role (41:01) Learning from mistakes (42:17) Being specific in requests (45:11) Avoiding open-ended questions (47:02) Short and direct communication (48:38) The reality of recruiter workloads (48:55) The ideal recruitment process (49:03) Corporate restructuring challenges (49:26) Meeting overload in recruitment (49:49) Improving recruitment efficiency (50:41) Promoting the Elite Recruiter Podcast (51:08) Time management on LinkedIn (51:26) Balancing social media and family (51:58) Understanding recruitment mindsets (52:48) Closing remarks and future plans About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Benjamin Mena Social Media LinkedIn Website About Our GuestBenjamin Mena is a seasoned recruiter who began his career after earning an Economics degree from the University of Central Florida. Over 15 years, he led hiring efforts for major defense contracts, supporting some of the nation’s most complex government programs. In 2018, he founded Select Source Solutions, continuing his government support while expanding into consulting. Benjamin now leverages his economics background to guide employers in aligning recruitment practices with broader economic and tech trends. Outside of work, he enjoys running, exploring wine regions, and hosting The Elite Recruiter Podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 77: Navigating Job Hopping, Layoffs, and the New Job Market Landscape
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Are you still clinging to the belief that a polished resume is your golden ticket to landing that dream job? It’s time to rethink. In today’s whirlwind of recruitment trends, LinkedIn updates, TikTok tips, and social media frenzy, your online presence is just as crucial as your resume. With giants like Salesforce, Walmart, and Zoom pushing people back to the office, and mouse jigglers surfacing amid heightened monitoring, not to mention the rising layoffs and burnout in healthcare, there’s so much more to consider. Ready to navigate this brutal job market? In this episode of "Recruiting is No Joke," we dive into the complexities of today’s job market and how social media is reshaping recruitment. We kick off the conversation with a warm introduction to Lauren Surman, founder of LWL Consulting and our insightful co-host.The conversation explores the tension between social media and traditional resumes, particularly in light of a viral post suggesting that social media presence may outweigh resumes in hiring decisions. We analyze this notion, highlighting that while social media is crucial for visibility, resumes still hold significant value. We also cover the balancing act between client searches and business development, tackle the issue of burnout in healthcare, and offer guidance on addressing employment gaps. We wrap up by discussing return-to-office mandates, the role of leadership in cultivating office culture, and the benefits of in-person interactions. This episode provides a thorough look at the evolving recruitment landscape, blending practical insights with a touch of humor to help job seekers and recruiters navigate these challenging times.Tune in to discover actionable tips on balancing your social media presence with your resume, insights into overcoming burnout, and strategies for thriving in the current job market.In this episode: (01:03) Introduction to Lauren Surman (02:10) Lauren's show overview (03:42) Lauren's business growth (04:19) Outbound recruitment strategies (05:33) Discussion on resume vs. social media (07:09) Lauren's take on social media's importance vs resume (09:24) Impact of social media on hiring (10:37) LinkedIn poll results (14:07) Job market overview (15:47) Industry-specific hiring insights (18:07) The importance of part-time jobs (18:41) Navigating job interviews with side hustles (19:15) Bridge jobs and their value (19:47) Advice for presenting current work (20:39) Openness to employment gaps (21:49) Transparency in recruitment (23:02) Job market realities (25:33) Corporate job market trends (27:21) Return to office mandates (29:11) Tracking employee activity (30:42) Remote work preferences (31:41) Office dynamics and budget concerns (33:27) Leadership and office presence (35:26) Remote work and pizza (36:20) Preparing for layoffs (37:51) Job market anxiety (39:57) Candidate questions on layoffs (42:15) Chipotle's controversial LinkedIn promotion offering free food (43:00) Misleading job applications (46:23) Recruitment and job boards (48:51) Closing remarks and Lauren's upcoming projects About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Lauren Surman LinkedIn Website Instagram Other Links & Mentions Chipotle Celebrity Status Card Lessons with Lauren Indy Star Article on Salesforce Friday Live with Lauren About Our GuestLauren Surman is the Founder of LWL Consulting, a specialized recruiting agency excelling in SaaS, executive search, sales, and tech recruitment. Known for her "figure-it-out-no-matter-what" mentality, Lauren is magnetic, passionate, and earned the nickname "The Bad Girl of LinkedIn." Her diverse background—from hospitality to construction—equips her with a unique perspective and a well-rounded skill set. Lauren’s expertise in sales and tech recruitment, coupled with her engaging live show, "Friday Live with Lauren," offers fresh insights and keeps the industry connected and informed. She has managed teams of 100+, closed deals up to $1.2 million, and served as Mr. Marriott's personal server. Beyond work, she cherishes her role as a mom to her 6-year-old son, Axel, and enjoys golfing, spending time with her dogs, and beach sunrises. Her motto, "If I can't, my network can," reflects her belief in the power of collaboration and meaningful connections. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 76: The Brutal Reality of Job Openings: Why People Aren't Leaving Their Jobs
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The job market is brutal right now, especially for folks in marketing and HR. Job scams are everywhere, AI is making things more complicated, and finding the right talent feels more competitive than ever. To top it off, some hiring practices are less than ideal, and many people are just not ready to leave their current jobs. It’s enough to make you wonder—are these so-called “ghost jobs” just setting us up for disappointment?Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," Joel hosts a solo episode packed with vital updates and insights. He starts by expressing gratitude to listeners and encouraging them to leave reviews. Exciting news follows: Rec Fest, a major recruitment event in Nashville, is just around the corner. Joel offers a discount code to make this valuable networking opportunity even more accessible.Joel also introduces a new community platform tailored for job seekers, designed to provide essential resources and support. He gives a shout-out to podcast sponsor Source Whale for their impactful recruitment tools. Reflecting on a recent Google ad for their AI tool, Gemini, Joel highlights a growing concern: while AI is marketed as a time-saver, many professionals find it adds to their workload and stress.In addition, Joel addresses the current job market, prevalent job scams, and the crucial role of remote work flexibility. He shares a poignant viral video of a young woman distressed by her high-pressure job, emphasizing the need for companies to cultivate empathy and support. Joel discusses how economic pressures, like rising inflation, contribute to workplace anxiety and stresses the importance of leaders checking in with their teams.Tune in, stay informed, and don’t miss out on the upcoming episode with our exciting guest host.In this episode: (00:03) Introduction and gratitude (02:10) Rec Fest in Nashville and discount code (02:36) Community platform for job seekers (03:09) SourceWhale Sponsorship acknowledgment (04:17) Discussion on AI and Google's Gemini (11:38) Job market insights (13:20) Talent pipelining (16:18) Walmart's return to office frustration (18:39) Corporate hiring trends (20:31) Anxiety in corporate culture (21:16) Impact of layoffs and workload (22:05) Inflation and employee stress (22:52) Empathy in leadership (23:41) Retention vs. job satisfaction (24:28) Community for job seekers (25:18) Closing remarks and gratitude About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter ******************************************************************************This episode is brought to you by Sourcewhale, the ultimate platform for streamlining your recruitment process and connecting with top talent efficiently. Discover how Sourcewhale can transform your hiring strategy and empower your team to thrive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 75: Changing the Candidate Experience with Mike Peditto
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Are we truly seeing the full picture when it comes to Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) and their role in hiring? Can algorithms really replace the nuance of human judgment? As AI continues to evolve, is it possible that we’re overlooking the essential human element in the hiring process?In this episode of "Recruiting is No Joke," we’re delighted to feature Mike Peditto, Director of Talent at Teal and known as "The Realistic Recruiter." Join us as we unravel the intricacies of recruitment, from the impact of Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) to the evolving role of AI in hiring. We dive into a thought-provoking LinkedIn post by Stephen Rothberg that critiques ATS filters for resume keywords and underscores the need for human oversight in the hiring process. We also explore the legal aspects of AI-driven decisions, the balance between technology and human judgment, and the significance of maintaining a polished online presence. Plus, discover how Teal empowers job seekers with essential tools and resources.Don’t miss a special segment where Mike shares insights from his podcast, "Corporate Pizza Party," co-hosted with industry experts. They offer a candid look at corporate life and practical job search advice, blending humor, honesty, and critical perspectives on the recruiting world. Tune in for an engaging discussion that promises both laughter and valuable takeaways.In this episode: (00:37) Introduction to Mike Peditto (02:02) Mike's content creation journey (03:40) Discussion on content creation (03:43) Corporate pizza party podcast (05:31) Recruitment content culture (06:21) LinkedIn post discussion (07:22) ATS technology and candidate ranking (09:00) Legal implications of AI in hiring (10:41) The role of recruiters in screening (14:10) AI screening tools (16:49) Quality vs. quantity of applicants (17:43) The future of recruitment tools (18:50) Poll results on AI in recruitment (19:37) Enhancing candidate experience (20:04) AI and resume screening (22:27) Authenticity in job applications (24:51) Interviewing techniques (26:57) Bias in hiring decisions (31:21) The role of recruiters (34:20) LinkedIn profile judgments (35:09) Petty hiring managers (36:11) The impact of LinkedIn photos (36:59) Recruiters' unwritten rules (38:51) Navigating content tone (41:15) Finding Mike Perdido online (42:05) Teal's mission and tools (43:31) How Mike's content creation journey led him to work with Teal. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Mike Peditto LinkedIn Teal | LinkedIn Teal | Official Website Corporate Pizza Party | Official Website Corporate Pizza Party | Apple Podcasts About Our GuestMike Peditto is the Director of Talent at Teal and a renowned content creator known as the Realistic Recruiter. With extensive experience in internal and agency recruitment, Mike’s no-nonsense approach has made him a sought-after voice in the industry. He co-hosts the “Corporate Pizza Party” podcast, where he discusses the realities of corporate life and job searching. Mike is dedicated to providing authentic and valuable advice to both recruiters and job seekers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 74: Effective Job Search Strategies in a Tough Market with Melissa Grabiner
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Have you ever felt like searching for a job has become a full-time job in itself? With today's job market growing increasingly complex and brutal, it seems like every step toward securing employment is met with yet another hurdle. So, how do you navigate this treacherous terrain? And as an employer, how can you leverage platforms like LinkedIn to find the talent that stands out in this crowded field?Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we have the pleasure of speaking with Melissa Grabiner, a leading LinkedIn authority and talent acquisition expert. Melissa joins us to delve into the current job market and the hurdles job seekers are navigating today.We explore the tough realities facing job seekers, including a notable TikTok video that highlighted the experience of one candidate who faced 1,623 rejections. Melissa offers her expertise on crafting a compelling resume and LinkedIn profile, the importance of proactive job searching, and the impact of authenticity in content creation.We discuss the critical need for persistence, effective communication, and strategies for standing out in a crowded job market. Melissa challenges the misconception that using an "Open to Work" banner on LinkedIn makes candidates seem desperate, advocating instead that transparency about job searching is a strength.Despite the current challenges, Melissa remains hopeful that the job market will eventually tilt back in favor of candidates. She encourages job seekers to stay resilient and proactive, emphasizing that leveraging networks and taking initiative are essential for navigating these turbulent times.Tune in to gain valuable insights and strategies for your job search. And don’t forget to subscribe to "Recruiting is No Joke" for more expert advice and career tips.In this episode: (01:19) Introduction to Melissa Grabiner (02:46) Melissa's motivation for creating content on LinkedIn (05:49) The importance of authenticity (06:47) Monetizing content on LinkedIn (08:37) Building an audience takes time (10:51) Balancing multiple responsibilities (12:03) Melissa’s business helping job seekers with resumes and LinkedIn optimization. (12:58) The challenges of content creation (15:08) Job market challenges (15:25) Reactions to a job seekers' story (17:40) Melissa's thoughts on job seekers' struggles (17:52) Importance of a strong resume and LinkedIn profile (18:47) Differentiating yourself in job applications (19:41) The value of follow-up messages (21:05) Proactive job searching (22:23) Shifts in job market dynamics (23:19) Candidate experience and ghosting (24:20) Candidate experience insights from UPS (25:18) Job searching vs. dating analogy (26:19) LinkedIn open to work banner controversy (27:30) The reality of job searching (30:11) The importance of proactive networking (31:03) Job market trends and future outlook (32:40) Historical context of job market changes (34:29) The need for continued effort in job searching (35:25) LinkedIn support services (36:02) Finding the right help (36:29) Patience in networking (37:13) Local opportunities (37:47) Closing remarks About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Melissa GrabinerLinkedInAbout Our GuestMelissa Grabiner is a distinguished HR and Talent Acquisition professional with over 30 years of experience, renowned for her expertise and thought leadership. As a 2X LinkedIn Top Voice in Job Search Strategies and Recruiting, she commands a following of over 352,000 and has achieved 2.1 million engagements and 194 million impressions on her posts in the past year. Melissa is ranked as the #2 Female LinkedIn Creator worldwide and has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Market Watch, and Times Square Billboard. She has created a strategic Talent Acquisition Function for Takeda Pharmaceuticals, managed 22 Talent Advisors with 0% attrition, and overseen hiring for 25,000+ employees. Her expertise spans global expansions, divestitures, and reorganizations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 73: Navigating Gen Z in the Workforce with Danielle Farage
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Like it or not, Gen Z is taking over: From politics to the workforce, how do we bridge the gap between decades of experience and fresh new energy? What happens when seasoned professionals in their 70s find themselves working alongside ambitious 20-year-olds who are reshaping the work landscape? With Gen Z bringing their tech-savvy skills and fresh perspectives into the mix, it’s inevitable that some challenges will arise.Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we're thrilled to welcome Danielle Faraj, a leading LinkedIn voice and Gen Z workplace expert.In this episode, we delve into the generational divide in the workforce, focusing on the unique challenges faced by Gen Z employees as they enter the job market. Danielle explores how these challenges are often misunderstood and discusses strategies for fostering a supportive and inclusive workplace culture.We address common stereotypes about Gen Z, such as the notion of entitlement, and how these perceptions echo criticisms faced by millennials in the past. Danielle highlights how platforms like TikTok and Instagram have empowered Gen Z to voice their experiences and hold companies accountable.Join us as we examine evolving workplace expectations, communication barriers, and shifts in professional etiquette. Danielle shares insights on bridging generational gaps, emphasizing the importance of mentorship, clear communication, and adaptability for creating a positive work environment.In this episode: (00:55) Introduction to today’s topic (02:24) Introduction to Danielle Faraj (03:01) Danielle's background (05:11) Toxic work experience example (06:49) Decision to leave a job (07:16) Positive work experience at Wade and Wendy (09:26) Realization about Gen Z's role (10:40) Influential figures in Gen Z discussion (11:39) Critique of Simon Sinek (12:46) Comparison of generational experiences (15:11) Discussion on Gen Z job retention (17:58) Contextualizing job market changes (20:04) The corporate ladder and transition (21:25) Corporate loyalty and layoffs (21:36) Cohesiveness in work environments (22:25) Generational work expectations (23:22) Productivity and remote work (25:36) Generational judgments (26:57) Remote work vs. office work (28:35) Gen Z's work preferences (30:03) Trust issues with leadership (32:00) Corporate trust erosion (34:46) Generational poll results (37:35) Gen Z's flexibility in time management (39:28) Workplace timing expectations (40:25) Toxic work environment experiences (41:20) Communication of workplace expectations (42:12) Gen Z etiquette training (42:52) Critical skills for Gen Z (44:08) Recruitment and cultural fit (46:01) Accountability in leadership (46:30) Social media and employee voice (48:14) Gen Z's motivation and awareness (50:08) Empathy in understanding generations (50:48) Danielle's upcoming projects (52:06) Podcast closing remarks About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Danielle Farage LinkedIn Instagram Website Facebook About Our GuestDanielle Faraj is a leading voice on LinkedIn and a prominent consultant on Gen Z workforce dynamics. With a rich background in HR and extensive experience teaching workshops for Microsoft and Northwestern, she has garnered over 20 million impressions on social media and built an engaged audience of 23,000 C-suite executives. As a digital nomad, Danielle combines her global perspective with practical insights to help companies navigate generational shifts. She is also the co-host of the Purple Acorn podcast, known for her engaging approach and deep understanding of Gen Z in the workplace.******************************************************************************This episode is brought to you by Sourcewhale, the ultimate platform for streamlining your recruitment process and connecting with top talent efficiently. Discover how Sourcewhale can transform your hiring strategy and empower your team to thrive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 72: The Reality of Office Culture: People are Speaking Out with Hebba Youssef
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Did the COVID-19 pandemic unveil more than just a health crisis? Like it or not, the pandemic exposed a myriad of challenges within our work environments that were often overshadowed by the comfort of in-person interactions. Suddenly thrust into remote work, we discovered gaps in communication, decision-making processes, and even our ability to connect meaningfully."Today on 'Recruiting is No Joke,' we sit down with Heba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and host of the "I Hate It Here" podcast and newsletter to delve into the evolving landscape of recruitment and workplace dynamics.During the sit-down, we discuss the impact of the pandemic on work environments, employee engagement, and the challenges of maintaining work-life balance. Heba emphasizes the importance of honesty in employer branding and critiques the trend of "coffee badging." We also explore the future of work, including remote and gig work, and the role of AI in HR. We wrap things up by delving into digital worker management and its ethical implications.Tune in to gain valuable insights and stay ahead in the ever-evolving world of work!In this episode: (01:12) - Introduction Hebba Youssef (03:28) - Impact of the pandemic on work (06:00) - Work culture and employer branding (10:39) - Coffee badging and remote work (12:26) - Engagement and return to office (15:03) - Strategies for getting employees back to the office (16:55) - Promotion and remote work (17:45) - The office and commercial real estate (19:05) - Remote work and inclusivity (20:11) - Remote work and job market trends (22:54) - Automation and AI in layoffs (24:13) - Gig economy and AI (25:42) - Merger of Careerbuilder and Monster (29:39) - AI and its limitations (35:00) - Upcoming events and plans (36:13) - The AI employee announcement (37:06) - Reactions to the announcement (38:13) - Comments on the announcement (39:24) - Industry frustrations (41:53) - Taylor Swift SEO issue (43:43) - HR and recruiting frustrations About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Hebba Youssef LinkedIn TikTok Work Week Website Workweek LinkedIn I Hate It Here Podcast About Our GuestHebba Youssef is the Chief People Officer at Workweek and founder of “I Hate it Here,” a podcast and newsletter with over 130,000 readers. She has led global learning and development teams, talent management, and People Ops at fintech startups, Axios, and Lithic. Hebba excels in building and scaling People Ops teams across various industries. In her free time, she enjoys reading sci-fi and fantasy novels and playing board games with her family. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 71: How Can Recruiters Adapt to the Changing Landscape of Communication Methods in Recruitment with Lysha Holmes
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Imagine this: In a world buzzing with AI-powered job searches and LinkedIn's latest features, does the humble cold call still have a place in recruitment? Let's dive into how traditional tactics like cold calling stack up against today's tech-savvy methods"Today on 'Recruiting is No Joke,' we talk with Lysha Holmes, owner of Qui Recruitment in the UK. Qui Recruitment was established in 2005 to provide a consultative and informed service within the recruitment market. Lysha has been a guest on our podcast before, bringing valuable insights. We explore the evolution of cold calling in recruitment, the impact of digital communication, and the crucial role of personal branding on LinkedIn. Lysha emphasizes the art of a compelling opening line in cold calling—it’s not just about making a call, but about forging a connection. We also delve into using LinkedIn for lead generation and building relationships through content creation. With LinkedIn's new features like video feeds gaining traction, Lysha highlights their appeal to Gen Z, underscoring video's rising importance. We also discuss AI's potential to enhance the candidate experience by improving communication and maintaining respect throughout the hiring process. This conversation is a treasure trove for recruiters, offering practical tips on mastering cold calling, leveraging AI, and building a strong personal brand to thrive in today's recruitment landscape. Let’s dive in!"In this episode: [00:58] Introduction to Lysha Holmes [04:25] The Importance of Cold Calling [11:29] Evolution of Communication Methods [18:23] The Role of Personal Branding and Content Creation [18:31] The suggested tab on LinkedIn and its similarity to TikTok's "for you" page. [19:18] Observations and opinions about the suggested content on LinkedIn [21:58] Use of video on LinkedIn [23:00] The preferences of Gen Z for consuming video. [24:04] Audience demographics on TikTok [27:58] Advice for creating video content [30:30] Following up after job interviews [31:46] Balancing persistence and respect in job seeking [35:07] The importance of persistence [36:32] Readjusting recruitment metrics [37:50] Improving the candidate experience with AI [38:44] Learning from online dating apps [40:45] Focusing on joy in the job search [42:23] Gratitude and adding value in the job search [47:33] Networking and being non-judgmental About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Lysha Holmes LinkedIn Qui Recruitment Website About Our GuestLysha Holmes, host of The Recruiters Recruitment Podcast, is a sober, solo parent, and executive coach with a specialization in Rec2Rec since 2002. Believing in the people-centric nature of recruitment, she runs her R2R service with a focus on candidates' skills, experience, and aspirations, ensuring seamless matches with industry partners. Her approach combines efficiency with discretion, reflecting a deep commitment to fostering successful career connections in the recruitment sector. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 70: The Challenges of Remote Work and Political Conversations in the Workplace with Devyn Mikell
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What if I told you that the future of recruitment isn't confined to office perks and flexible hours anymore? Picture a world where virtual reality interviews redefine the hiring process, where your next boss might be an AI, and where company culture thrives as a vibrant, evolving force. Welcome to a frontier where recruitment meets innovation, and corporate culture isn't just a buzzword—it's a dynamic, living ecosystem shaping the workplaces of tomorrow.Today on 'Recruiting is No Joke,' we feature Devyn Mikell, President of QualiFI, to discuss current trends and challenges in the recruitment industry. QualiFI is a screening platform designed for high-volume recruiting. It assists in managing candidates from the initial phone screen through to the final interview, including scheduling and live video interactions with customers.During the conversation, we delve into the impact of remote work, employee mandates, and the ongoing talent shortage in healthcare. Our conversation also touches on the ethical implications of political discussions in the workplace and the surprising decline in demand for software developers. Additionally, we react to news stories, including Wells Fargo's firing of employees/‘Mouse Jigglers’ for unethical practices. This episode offers valuable insights into the evolving landscape of recruitment and corporate culture.In this episode: [01:07] - Introduction to Devyn Mikell [01:13] -Introduction to QualiFI and what it does [01:41] - QualiFI's clientele base [02:05] - Challenges in healthcare recruitment [03:26] - Devyn's thoughts on the role of AI in healthcare jobs: supplementing or risky? [04:28] - Reaction to news story: Wells Fargo firing mouse jigglers [-6:13] - Ethical concerns in sales: Remote work trends and productivity [09:40] -Devyn's biggest challenge has been building a remote-first company [11:35] - Remote work mandate at Dell/Thecorporate escapee video [14:33] - Reaction to Dell's return to office policy [16:21] - Challenges of switching back to in-person work [17:57] - Remote work challenges [19:37] - Navigating political conversations at work [30:34] - Decline in software developer demand [34:22] - Gen Z's interest in skilled trades [36:23] - The ego and humility [37:28] - Events and networking About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Devyn Mikell LinkedIn Qualifi Website About Our GuestDevyn Mikell is the President and Co-Founder of Qualifi, a startup transforming phone interviews into scalable business intelligence to enhance candidate experience. An entrepreneur and business leader from Indianapolis, IN, Devyn thrives on connecting with others and understanding their perspectives. He also started a food truck in his senior year of college, reflecting his passion for food and innovation. A 2017 graduate of Indiana State University with a Bachelor's in Operations and Supply Chain Management, Devyn excelled in Track & Field, winning several medals in the Long Jump. Devyn also coaches Track & Field, demonstrating his commitment to mentoring and development. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 69: Navigating the Changing Dynamics of Job Search: Insights from Industry Experts with Serge Bourdreu and Shelley Billinghurst
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Did you know that the landscape of job searching is changing rapidly? Big companies and their strict rules are becoming less popular. This shift has sped up because of big changes like the pandemic. The pandemic showed us that working from home can work well. At the same time, technology, especially AI, is making job searches easier and faster.Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we welcome Serge Boudreau and Shelley Billinghurst from the "Recruitment Flex" podcast. The conversation delves into the intricacies of the recruitment industry, the importance of mentorship, and the evolving dynamics of the job search processDuring the conversation, they discuss their professional backgrounds, their work at Hire Value, and the importance of mentorship and relationships in business. Shelley and Serge share insights on starting a business, the evolving job search process, and the impact of technology and parental involvement in interviews. They also touch on the power shift towards job seekers and the rise of remote work and the gig economy. Shelley discusses the significant power shift to job seekers in 2021 and 2022, driven by the rise of remote work and the gig economy. However, she noted that the traditional corporate grind still holds sway in many companies.The conversation provides valuable insights into the recruitment industry, the importance of mentorship, and the evolving dynamics of the job search process.In this episode: [00:37] Introduction to Serge Boudreau & Shelley Billinghurst [01:25] Shelley’s background and podcast origin [02:28] Serge's background and podcast origin [05:09] Podcast growth and authenticity [05:59] Hosting events and industry relationships [08:58] Collaboration and business expansion [13:59] Advice for starting a business [16:21] Importance of real relationships [17:49] Entrepreneurial coaching and advice [20:14] The importance of empathy for job seekers [21:24] Challenges faced by recruiters and job seekers [24:09] Use of technology in job interviews [25:52] Impact of AI on job interviews and assessments [30:12] AI auto apply tools and their impact [34:39] Challenges in recruitment marketing and candidate screening [36:39] Involvement of parents in job interviews [40:57] The thank you note debate [46:09] Shift away from corporate grin [51:53] Impact of pandemic on work preferences [53:32] Viral sensation and online attention About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Serge Boudreau LinkedIn Hire Value Inc. Website Shelley Billinghurst LinkedIn Hire Value Inc. Website About Our GuestsShelley Billinghurst, CEO & Founder of Hire Value, boasts over 25 years of expertise in recruitment, with a deep understanding of provincial, national, and global labor markets. She spearheads digital recruitment marketing and co-hosts The Recruitment Flex Podcast, recognized as a TATech Top 40 Honoree (2024) and a Top 100 Most Influential Thought Leader (2023).Serge Boudreau, a 25-year Talent Acquisition leader, excels in TA technology and recruitment marketing. As VP for Growth at Hire Value and co-host of *The Recruitment Flex Podcast*, he's a TA Tech Top 100 Influential Thought Leader. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 68: How Can AI Revolutionize Recruitment Workflows with Gary Elden OBE and Dan Malka
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Like it or not, the recruitment landscape is evolving rapidly. Success now requires embracing advanced technology alongside understanding human connections. By blending AI for efficient data handling with the essential human touch of relationship building and niche market expertise, recruiters can thrive in this changing industry.Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we are joined by Gary Elden OBE and Dan Malka, CEO and co-founders of Hire Genius, an essential all-in-one cloud-based recruitment toolkit. Our discussion delves into the dynamic recruitment landscape, highlighting the crucial roles of relationship-building, adapting post-COVID, and leveraging AI effectively.Gary Elden OBE emphasizes that understanding client needs and building rapport are foundational for successful recruiters. Post-COVID, the recruitment market has shifted, requiring adaptability. While cold calling remains integral, Gary Elden OBE and Dan Malka stress converting these into warmer relationships.They underscore the benefits of specialization, actionable data, and navigating challenges for solo recruiters. Balancing technology and personal interactions is key, alongside focusing on niche markets for industry success. Dan Malka advocates for integrating AI meaningfully rather than superficially, cautioning against over-reliance for productivity.Whether seasoned or starting out, insights from Gary Elden OBE and Dan Malka provide valuable guidance for thriving in recruitment’s evolving landscape. Let’s dive in!In this episode: [00: 51 ] Introduction to Gary Elden OBE and Dan Malka [01:27] Introduction to Hire Genius [03:26] Importance of recruitment background in developing HR technology [06:22] Evolution of recruiter skills [08:11] The role of relationships in recruitment [11:47] The role of cold calling in recruitment [16:37] The future of networking in recruitment [17:51] Adapting recruitment strategies [18:29] Leveraging AI in recruitment workflows and coaching clients [19:45] End-to-end workflow automation [21:42] Challenges of AI adoption [22:38] Outsourcing and language accent [24:52] Efficiency and productivity [26:03] Actionable data and market insights [29:11] Management style and remote work [30:47] Shift in recruitment dynamics [33:25] Solo entrepreneurship and technology [34:39] Transition to recruitment consulting [36:06] Market challenges and learning opportunities [36:25] Barriers to entry [37:38] Challenges for job seekers About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Gary Elden OBE LinkedIn HireGenius Website Dan Malka LinkedIn HireGenius Website About Our GuestsGary Elden OBE, Chair of Momenta Group, co-founded Hire Genius and chairs Amoria Bond, Get-Optimal, and The Stephen James Partnership. Former CEO of SThree PLC, he was awarded the 2015 Black British Business Awards’ Business Person of the Year. Dan Malka, CEO and co-founder of Hire Genius collaborates with Elden, leveraging 20+ years of recruitment expertise to innovate streamlined, secure, and cost-effective hiring solutions. Their partnership ensures efficient talent acquisition through an all-in-one platform. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 67: Unlock the Secrets of Sales Success with Scott Littrell
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Are you tired of sending generic outreach emails into the void, hoping for a response? Do you find yourself lost in the sea of sales pitches flooding your inbox? In today's hyper-connected digital landscape, personalization is no longer just a bonus—it's a necessity. As the importance of personalization in outreach becomes increasingly evident, businesses are seeking innovative ways to connect with their target audience and stand out from the crowd.Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we sit down with Scott Littrell, the VP of Sales at SourceWhale, to delve into the intricacies of sales, cold calling, and the power of personalization in outreach. SourceWhale is the industry-leading business development and headhunting platform built for modern-day recruitment.We discuss the challenges of sales and cold calling, highlighting the necessity of personalization in outreach to boost reply rates. Scott shares his strategies for breaking into large accounts, emphasizing the importance of understanding the market and targeting the right accounts. We also discuss the role of content creation on platforms like LinkedIn, with Scott advising sales teams to post valuable content to build relationships. The episode provides actionable insights into effective sales strategies and the evolving landscape post-pandemic.In this episode: [00:57] Introduction to Scott [01:13] Introducing today’s topic (Sales and Cold Calling) [01:39] SourceWhale's services [02:07] Multi-channel approach [03:02] Challenges in outreach [05:02] Introduction of SourceWhale's personalized outreach capabilities [06:12] The power of personalization [10:38] Content creation and influencer marketing [13:08] The importance of value-driven content [15:39] Focus on best accounts [18:21] Personalization and outreach [19:06] Post-pandemic strategy [20:05] Effective outreach strategies [21:26] Content creation and outreach [25:16] Cold calling and multi-channel outreach [26:41] Data analysis on cold calling [32:28] Challenges and success in cold calling [35:42] Authenticity and value in sales [35:49] Motivation and confidence in sales [36:29] Effective cold calling [38:52] Cold call openers [42:24] Follow-up and relationship building [44:39] Adapting sales strategies [45:02] Closing and networking [46:16] Conclusion and call to action About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) Scott Littrell LinkedIn SourceWhale Website About Our GuestScott Littrell has been the VP of Sales at SourceWhale since 2023. With a Bachelor of Science degree in Business Administration from the University of Vermont, Scott's career journey includes notable roles at ZoomInfo, where he managed teams and excelled in new business development. His expertise extends from clinical sales to leadership, marking a dynamic trajectory in the industry. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 66: The Power of Community and Trust in Recruitment
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Is finding the right talent like searching for a needle in a haystack? In today's fast-paced world, building strong communities and trust and balancing in-person and online events is more important than ever in recruitment. Whether it's the personal connections made face-to-face or the wide reach of online platforms, the best recruitment strategies blend both worlds.Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we host a live recording at the Unleash conference, featuring guests Krista Tan from Talent Collective, Summer Delaney from CollabWORK and Ray Culvert from Talent Partners. We delve into the heart of recruitment, touching on the pivotal roles of community building, trust, and the dynamic between in-person and online events. We discuss CollabWORK’s innovative approach to connecting employers with the hidden job market through trusted community spaces, highlighting their AI-driven job distribution and impressive engagement rates. We also address the challenges within the talent ecosystem, emphasizing the need for better communication and follow-through in the recruitment process. Together, we underscore the role of technology and community in enhancing the recruitment experience for candidates and employers alike.In this episode: [00:53] Introducing Talent Collective [01:51] Building a community [03:31] Impactful stories [04:38] In-person vs. virtual events [06:15] Growth and leadership [08:21] Building a community [09:08] Engagement in the community [10:07] Connecting with Talent Collective [12:31] Introducing CollabWORK [13:44] Defining community [14:31] Successful communities [16:39] Online and in-person communities [17:16] Background of CollabWORK [17:27] Katie Couric and career journey [17:57] Building trust and community partnerships [19:43] HR tech community and advocacy [20:30] CollabWORK's value proposition [21:26] Trust and attention in recruitment [22:16] Community referrals and job click rates [25:31] Hidden job market and community connect [26:29] Community expansion and personal branding [27:11] Engaging in professional communities [30:22] Connecting with CollabWORK [31:29] Talent Partners and talent ecosystem [33:06] Recruitment challenges and AI in pre-screening [34:32] AI for candidates [36:43] Recruiter job security [38:14] Automating recruitment [39:28] Recruiter responsibility [41:07] Networking and community building [42:16] Future of job boards [43:35] Unleash conference takeaways About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) About Our GuestsSummer Delaney, CEO of CollabWORK, pioneers a community-powered hiring platform, integrating with 40+ ATS to connect companies with diverse talent pools. A seasoned journalist, content strategist, and community builder, she's contributed to major media outlets and won awards. Summer holds a BS from Northwestern University and an MBA from Columbia Business School.Krista Tan is the Co-Founder of Talent Collective, a community-based organization empowering and connecting women in talent acquisition. With a mission to advance careers and recruiting networks, we curate in-person and virtual experiences. With 375+ global members, we've established chapters in major cities and plan expansion in 2024 to Austin and Chicago.Ray Culver is an accomplished executive with over 25 years of expertise in the Contingent Workforce domain, spanning Temp, Contract, Direct Hire, HR Technology, RPO, and MSP/VMS. Specializing in GTM strategy, client acquisition, large-scale recruiting projects, and global sales and operations management, Ray excels in implementing and managing large account programs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 65: Transforming Recruitment with Automation and AI
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Have you ever wondered how your recruitment process could be transformed for the better?In today's dynamic business landscape, where time is of the essence and competition for top talent is fierce, traditional recruitment methods may fall short of meeting the demands of modern organizations. But what if there was a way to streamline and optimize the entire process? What if technology could revolutionize the way companies attract, assess, and hire candidates?Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we shift our focus to the Unleash conference, where we engage with some of the brightest minds in the recruitment industry. In this episode, we are thrilled to share the wealth of knowledge and insights from representatives from UPS, Medtronic, and Rockwell Automation (Matt, Mark and Patrick).In our conversation, Matt discusses the benefits of using Fountain for recruitment automation and enhancing candidate experience. Mark Smith from Medtronic shares insights on skills-based hiring, recruiting from non-traditional backgrounds for roles requiring dexterity, and fostering an inclusive culture. He also talks about leveraging AI to improve recruitment processes. Patrick Fenn from Rockwell Automation describes his journey in recruitment and his role in hiring for the company. The episode delves into the use of technology in recruitment and the importance of employer branding.In this episode: [00:00:49] Automation and improving candidate experience [00:02:42] High-volume hiring and process changes [00:04:32] Candidate experience and surveys [00:05:44] Enhancing candidate communication [00:10:55] Leadership and candidate experience [00:12:33] Data and predictive analysis [00:16:11] Employer branding and hiring at Medtronic [00:17:14] Skills-based hiring philosophy [00:17:36] Microscopic assembly skills [00:18:30] Recruiting for micro assemblers [00:21:37] Creating a culture for manufacturing [00:25:16] AI tools for recruitment [00:29:20] Candidate experience and AI [00:34:18] Global hiring responsibilities [00:34:45] Internship recruitment strategy [00:35:20] Phenomenon of internship hoarding [00:36:44] Candidate experience and automation [00:38:06] Evaluation of recruitment automation tools [00:39:06] Recruiter feedback and AI adoption [00:39:51] Advanced CRM and pre-matching tools [00:40:36] Recruiter workload and trust building [00:41:28] Recruiter-manager relationship and transparency About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) About Our GuestsMatt Lavery, Matt is a seasoned Recruiting and Staffing expert, specializing in social media and online recruitment. He excels in applicant tracking systems, AAP management, project management, HR technology implementation, workforce planning, and background check processes. Matt's innovative approach consistently drives organizational success and fosters inclusive workplace cultures.Mark Smith, is a seasoned Global Talent Leader with over two decades of experience at top companies like Randstad, Amazon, and Kraft Heinz. Now at Medtronic as Senior Director, Global Talent Acquisition, he excels in fostering talent, driving innovation, and promoting a culture of trust and servant leadership in healthcare.Patrick Finn is the Director of Talent Acquisition at VillageMD, based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He excels in recruiting top talent to drive healthcare innovation and growth. Patrick's leadership ensures VillageMD attracts and retains skilled professionals, contributing to the company's mission of transforming primary care. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 64: The Future of Recruitment: Unveiling Trends, AI, and People Analytics
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This episode of 'Recruiting is No Joke Live' takes a deep dive into the shifting landscape of recruitment. With a focus on finding common ground between technological advancements and human-centric approaches, our guests will unpack key trends and techniques reshaping the industry.Bias Reduction with AIWe explore one of AI's most significant promises: the potential to reduce bias that has historically plagued the hiring process, aiming for a more equitable, transparent practice. How can AI improve candidate experiences and enhance job matching?Decoding HR with People AnalyticsOur experts discuss the innovative ways people analytics is transforming HR decision-making. By enabling a comprehensive understanding of the employee lifecycle, can we anticipate and address future challenges more proactively?Human Connection in an AI-Driven WorldDespite leaps and bounds within the AI space, there's a vital component that remains irreplaceable - human interaction. Our conversation grapples with the essential but often overlooked role of human touch within recruitment process automation.In this episode 00:00:04: Introduction to the episode 00:01:07: Discussing people analytics 00:02:04: Using data for decision making in HR 00:03:42: The connection between recruitment and people analytics 00:04:21: The use of AI in recruitment 00:07:15: The application of data in an organization 00:08:10: Importance of doing something with the data 00:09:11: The future of people analytics 00:10:45: Remote work and office culture 00:15:00: Debunking the fear of AI 00:16:59: Importance of solving problems with AI 00:18:24: Potential benefits of AI for recruitment and work life balance 00:19:43: Learning about Technology and Accessibility 00:21:03: The Problem of Mundane, Repetitive Tasks in Jobs 00:21:28: Diversity and Bias in Job Applications 00:24:19: Identifying and Addressing Bias in Hiring Process 00:26:48: Brief Discussion on Effect of Technology in Hiring 00:29:41: The Need for Human Contact and Interaction in Hiring 00:31:41: The Positive Impact of Technology on Job Processes 36:57: What is People Analytics? 37:34: Tools and Skills for Transitioning into People Analytics 40:15: The Future of Data Analytics 43:32: The Impact of AI in Analytics 45:07: The Future of Job Applications 48:40: Advice for Startups in the Analytics Industry. 00:49:15: How employee experience changes with people analytics 00:49:44: What matters more - people or technology 00:50:10: Hypothetical fight: LinkedIn vs Indeed 00:50:51: Where to connect with the speaker 00:51:20: Embracing change and the power of data About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) About Our GuestsZack Johnson, General Manager of Embedded Analytics, focused on building strategic partnerships with organizations that believe analytics unlocks critical, untapped value for their customers. Zack manages Visier’s OEM analytics business, where we partner with other software providers to bring world-class analytics to their customers.Angela Hood, Founder/CEO of ThisWay Global, an international, VC-backed HR tech company that was incubated at ideaSpace – University of Cambridge, UK, with new offices now in the US. ThisWay's team is comprised of experienced entrepreneurs, global PhD’s in the areas of machine learning and AI, as well as talent from across the globe. John Federman, CEO of HireRoad with over 25 years experience driving revenue and profit through innovative media, data and ecommerce platforms designed to drive greater successes in connecting buyers and sellers. With deep big-publishing-company experience, have gone on to lead transformative data and technology companies that target, engage and build relationships with consumers across multiple platforms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 63: Redefining Networking and Content Creation in the Recruitment Industry with Adam Posner
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Are you keeping up with the latest trends in the recruitment industry? From the increasing influence of Artificial Intelligence in resume crafting to the evolving standards of content on LinkedIn, the landscape of job hunting is constantly changing. But amidst all these changes, one thing remains constant: the importance of authenticity.Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we sit down with Adam Posner, CEO of NHP Talent and fellow podcast host.In our conversation, we delve into the most recent trends within the recruitment industry, with a particular emphasis on the influence of Artificial Intelligence in the crafting of resumes and the caliber of content on LinkedIn. We underscore the necessity of maintaining authenticity in job applications and adopting a strategic methodology when networking on LinkedIn. Our conversation encompasses the criticality of pinpointing the appropriate audience for brand collaborations, the hazards associated with an excessive dependence on social media platforms for conducting business, and the changing dynamics of remote and hybrid work structures. Furthermore, we engage in a dialogue about the societal progression towards a better work-life equilibrium and the imperative for lucid communication in the process of synchronizing candidate expectations with the ethos of a company's culture.In this episode: [00:00:37] Introduction to Adam Posner [00:02:37] Discussion on podcast episodes [00:03:26] Impact of AI on resume generation [00:09:17] Quality of content on LinkedIn [00:13:24] Thought leadership and building a quality network [00:16:55] Building a quality network on LinkedIn [00:18:18] Thought leadership and content quality [00:21:27] Impact of AI in recruitment [00:23:31] Remote work and work-life balance [00:29:15] Hustle culture and work priorities [00:31:26] Work from home revolution [00:32:42] Young engineers' preference for office work [00:34:13] Controversy over interview attire [00:35:10] Importance of presentability in interviews [00:37:39] Challenges of recruiting in lean teams [00:38:59] Upcoming events and podcast release schedule About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) About Adam PosnerAdam Posner, Founder and President Director at NHP Talent Group, specializes in recruitment strategy, talent process, and operations for startups, agencies, and brands. With a focus on Marketing, Performance Media, Creative, Product, and Content Creation, Adam utilizes his 15 years of experience in NYC's advertising and marketing industry to understand candidates' Career DNA, ensuring a perfect fit. As the host of the #ThePOZcast, Adam brings experts from the world of Talent and HR to help drive careers forward, emphasizing tenacity and personal growth.Adam Posner Social Media NHP Talent Linkedin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 62: Exploring the Evolving Landscape of Talent Acquisition and Job Searching with Marcus Sawyerr
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Have you ever wondered what the future holds for the job market and how technology will redefine the way we find and fill positions? Well, you're not alone. In the ever-evolving world of recruitment, staying ahead of the curve is not just a goal; it's a necessity.Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we sit down with Marcus Sawyerr, an expert in talent acquisition and AI technology. Marcus's journey in recruitment is a testament to the power of innovation and inclusion. In our conversation, we delve into the significance of AI wearables within the recruitment sphere, the ever-changing dynamics of the job market, and the critical nature of adaptability for those seeking employment.Throughout our discussion, Marcus imparts invaluable advice on the art of networking and the crafting of a personal brand. We also examine the merits of aligning individual capabilities with the current demands of the job market. Our conversation extends to the comparison of job stability in startup environments versus established large corporations, and we highlight the escalating necessity for professionals in sectors that are experiencing a high demand but suffer from a low supply of skilled individuals.As the episode draws to a close, we reflect on the themes of personal development and the pivotal decisions that shape one's career trajectory.In this episode: (00:01:05) - Introduction to Marcus Sawyerr (00:01:58) - Marcus Sawyer's experience in the recruitment space (00:03:03) - The evolution of AI in recruitment (00:04:20) - AI Wearables and technology trends (00:13:40) - The practical use cases of new technology (00:15:53) - Two contrasting predictions about the recruitment market (00:17:49) - The nature of predictions and the need for quantitative measures (00:18:38) - Big tech firms over-hiring during talent war (00:19:36) - Evolution of recruiter role (00:20:32) - Market-specific talent demand (00:21:42) -Geopolitical influence on the job market (00:25:20) - Challenges in job search (00:27:33) - Importance of building a network and personal brand (00:30:20) - Navigating modern job search (00:32:44) - Importance of in-person networking (00:35:39) -The importance of strategic job search (00:36:23) - The illusion of dream job scenarios and the need for realistic expectations (00:36:31) - The advantages and challenges of working for a big tech firm (00:37:22) - Job stability in the evolving technological landscape (00:38:22) - Comparison of job stability in startups versus large corporations (00:39:57) - The economic value of different professions based on supply and demand. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) About Marcus SawyerrMarcus Sawyerr, Founder & CEO of EQ Community, boasts over 15 years of experience in online recruitment, digital transformation, and executive leadership. He has held key positions, including former President at Adecco, a Fortune 500 company, and served on the Microsoft Services Executive Board. Witnessing the limited access to meaningful job opportunities, especially for people of color, he started as an inside sales rep and worked his way up. Now, he focuses on empowering diverse talent as he leads EQ Community, a private members' community for multicultural tech professionals.Marcus Sawyerr Social Media EQ.app Linkedin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 61: The Most Misunderstood Aspects of Job Searching with Russell Ayles
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Have you ever felt like your job application disappears into a black hole, never to be seen by human eyes? You name it, I've heard it. 'It must be a robot, 'ATS just reject everyone,' or the classic, 'No one even reads my resume.'Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we're thrilled to have Russell Ayles, the founder and CEO of UNRiVALLED recruitment agency. With decades of experience in internal recruitment, Russell brings a wealth of knowledge to our discussion.During our conversation, we dive deep into a controversial video by Jerry Lee, the CEO of WonSulting. The video in question showcases a fake resume with the name "Kiss My Nuts" that somehow managed to secure interviews. We fiercely debate the video's underlying message, pondering whether it's a stark revelation of recruiters prioritizing keywords over the entirety of a resume's content.Throughout our conversation, we dissect the recruitment process, underscoring the undeniable importance of relevant experience and how phone interviews play a crucial role in evaluating a candidate. We also touch upon the often overlooked disconnect between corporate executives and their employees, the elusive concept of a hidden job market, and how the culture of a company can significantly influence its recruitment practices.Wrapping up the episode, we share some practical job application tips and take the time to debunk common myths surrounding the hiring process. Our goal is to shed light on these critical issues and help both recruiters and job seekers navigate the complex world of recruitment with a better understanding and more realistic expectations.In this episode: (00:00:37) - Introduction to Russell Ayles (00:01:50) - Russell's journey to becoming a LinkedIn Top Voice. (00:05:34) - Choosing and using an ATS, focusing on candidate experience. (00:08:41) - Russell's transition from career coaching to founding Unrivalled. (00:09:57) - Discussing the challenges faced in business and entrepreneurship. (00:11:34) - Reaction to Jerry Lee's "Kiss My Nuts" resume experiment. (00:15:24) - Debating the experiment's purpose and recruiters' responsibilities. (00:16:35) - Authenticity and impact of Jerry Lee's video. (00:17:50) - Role of keywords in recruitment and talent acquisition. (00:19:29) - Why certain resumes pass screening processes. (00:20:24) - Recruiters' emphasis on specific skills. (00:23:33) - The influence of resumes on job suitability. (00:26:19) - Elon Musk's $56 billion request and employee implications. (00:29:28) - Trust and culture in corporate environments. (00:32:32) - Comparing US and Australian corporate cultures. (00:33:21) - Culture differences in small vs. large companies. (00:34:11) - Aligning recruitment with company culture. (00:35:59) - Company culture's effect on recruitment. (00:38:56) - Glassdoor reviews' impact on company perception. (00:44:47) - The hidden job market's role in recruitment. (00:47:43) - Advantages of hidden jobs for companies and HR. (00:49:18) - Overcoming fear in job applications. (00:50:10) - Evaluating career advice based on advisors' experience. (00:51:01) - Statistics on role filling methods. (00:52:34) - Job advertising, hidden market, and job search strategies. (00:54:27) - Matching qualifications with job requirements. (00:55:47) - Realities of the hiring process and skills importance. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) About Russell AylesRussell Ayles is a seasoned professional with nearly two decades of experience in the retail industry. Having worked with industry giants like ASOS, General Pants, and House of Fraser, he has seen it all when it comes to recruitment. Russell is the founder of UNRiVALLED Agency, offering a refreshing approach to talent sourcing. With a focus on understanding businesses' DNA and providing top-notch candidate care, Russell is committed to revolutionizing the recruitment process.Russell Ayles Social Media UNRiVALLED Agency. Linkedin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 60: Understanding and Communicating a Company's Compensation Philosophy: The Key to Successful Hiring with Rani Mavram
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Ever wondered how working from home affects a company's ability to innovate and find new talent? The shift to remote work has changed a lot about how companies operate. From how we work together to how we hire new people, the way things are done is evolving.Today on “Recruiting is No Joke”, we sit down with Rani Mavram, CEO of Complete. Complete is a platform for startups to manage and scale their compensation strategy, keeping cash bonuses and benefits front of mind.During our conversation, we talk about the subtleties of remote work and its impact on innovation and recruitment. We explore the equilibrium between remote and in-office work, the critical role of company culture, and tactics for handling compensation workflows. Our discussion also delves into the importance of a company's compensation philosophy, the necessity for clarity in job postings, and our responsibility as recruiters to enlighten candidates about compensation. Moreover, we touch on how remote work influences recruiting and the creation of an inviting office atmosphere. We wrap up the episode with anticipation of delving into AI in sourcing in future discussionIn this episode: (01:09) – Overview of Complete (02:36) – The complexities of compensation packages and the need for better literacy (03:45) – Nike's CEO weighs in on how remote work affects innovation (O5:07) – Rani shares his take on remote work, collaboration, and innovation (07:23) – Joel presents results from a LinkedIn poll about remote work (15:29) – Rani talks about the importance of employee development (11:03) – Rani examines how remote and in-office work settings influence recruiting (13:51) – The importance of an appealing office space and the hurdles of balancing remote work with office culture. (17:40) – The value of investing in employee development (18:24) – Rani describes an interactive offer platform's features (19:13) – Engagement with different sections of the offer platform (21:04) – Using video in recruitment to add authenticity and human connection (22:51) – Increasing compensation expectations among job seekers (24:42) – The importance of comprehending total compensation (27:52) – The need to educate candidates about compensation packages (29:30) – Rani explains a company's compensation philosophy and its role in attracting and retaining talent. (34:28) – The challenges and significance of transparency in compensation (36:10) – Internal pay parity and understanding pay progression over time (37:14) – Salary transparency (38:15) – Offer evaluation (39:14) – Empowering hiring managers (39:42) – The impact of remote work on innovation (40:17) – How to learn more about Complete (40:44) – Potential future conferences and the value of resources (41:51) – Upcoming AI and sourcing discussion About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) About Rani MavramRani Mavram, the co-founder of Complete, is responsible for creating a platform designed to help startups manage and scale their compensation strategies effectively, with a focus on cash bonuses and benefits. In addition to assisting companies in defining their compensation philosophy, Complete offers various products, including an interactive offer letter for potential candidates to gain a comprehensive understanding of their compensation package. It also allows current employees to access detailed breakdowns of their compensation. The platform has successfully raised $4 million from investors such as Accel, Y Combinator, and Housefund. Currently, it is used by HR teams in companies like Roblox, Vercel, and DataStax.Rani Mavram Social Media Complete Linkedin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 59. Finding the Job That Best Matches Your Skills with Tom Woodhams
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The job market, even when the economy is robust, can be a challenging place. Knowing how to search and what prospective employers are looking for makes the search easier. But in this age of technology, having access to solid insights is a must.Today on “Recruiting is No Joke”, we sit down with Tom Woodhams. Tom is a recognized thought leader in the recruiting space, known for his work in helping find Data and Software Engineering talent. Tom stops by today to talk trends, give resume tips, and help listeners navigate the job search terrain. If your job search hasn’t produced the results, you thought it would, join us for a deep dive as we expose hidden gems you might be overlooking. It’s an incredible conversation with the one and only Tom Woodhams … today on “Recruiting is No Joke.!In this episode: (3:45) – Joel and Tom discuss one of his more popular posts. (5:00) – Joel and Tom go deep on the topic of resume tailoring. (6:52) – Understanding the value of keywords in a job description. (7:10) – People often have challenges writing their own resumes. (9:10) – Joel shares his perspective on resumes and accomplishments. (10:44) – Tom shares his views on keyword filtering. (12:40) – Seasoned recruiters and reading through the lines. (14:50) – Joel emphasizes show not tell. (18:21) – The conversation moves to the intricacies of the application process. (19:00) – Tom opens up about Easy Apply. (23:51) – Possible changes to the traditional interview process. (28:01) – Conversations on remote work and employee sentiments. (31:53) – Recruiting and remote work are discussed. (33:10) – The conversation turns to the voice employees found during COVID. (34:19) – Joel mentions that employees want flexibility. (37:37) – Tom believes hybrid is the new remote. (38:34) – Tom gives jobseekers his best piece of advice. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Recruiting is No Joke Social Media Linkedin Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) About Tom Woodhams Tom Woodhams is a tech recruiter who loves coding just as much as he loves helping people with their tech and coding careers. With nearly a decade in the recruiting industry, his specialty is Data and Software Engineering. What sets Tom apart when it comes to job placement is that he is an actual coder. So, whereas other recruiters can only place people in positions, Tom can view the opportunity from both sides of the table. This allows him to better align people with businesses and in the process, everyone wins. A noted Linkedin creator and champion of the ADHD community, Tom inspires jobseekers through his podcast and a variety of other content pieces. Tom Woodhams Social Media Website – Hawkeye Innovations Linkedin Instagram X (Formerly Twitter) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 58: Finding the job, Remember the Gratitude with James Hudson
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Going through a layoff is never easy, and bouncing back with a new job can feel like an uphill battle. It gets even harder when you're bombarded with bad advice online.Join us on "Recruiting is No Joke" as we chat with the amazing James Hudson, a talent acquisition expert. He'll share real-world tips on navigating the job market after a layoff and crafting a solid plan for your next career move.Remember, finding a job is more like a marathon than a sprint. Let's work together to get you back on track and moving forward in your career. Tune in for this important conversation with James Hudson, only on "Recruiting is No Joke"!In this episode: (2:11) – James Hudson begins telling the listeners about his journey in Talent and Acquisition, including his Linkedin content journey. (2:58) – The auto accident that changed everything. (4:00) – James sees an opportunity via Linkedin to share real insights. (4:44) – The audience on Linkedin begins to grow. (5:04) – James lands a weekly column in Forbes. (7:09) – The conversation goes deep into James and his content strategy and reviews popular posts. (9:42) – James speaks on followers and their views on career coaching and resume writing services offered by recruiters. (10:33) – James makes an interesting point about the most prolific content creators. (10:55) – The value a recruiter has to offer as a content creator. (12:00) – James voices concerns about recruiters. (12:42) – Social media exploitation from the realm of career and recruiting advice. (13:49) – Joel and James review another post/video and provide cautionary perspectives. (16:50) – James discusses the danger of speaking in absolutes. (17:41) – James says anyone speaking in absolutes is not a recruiter, they’re a salesperson. (18:52) – The importance of testing your resume if it isn’t working. (20:20) – Joel and James review another video, this one featuring James. (21:30) – Things to do when facing a layoff, according to James. (22:10 – Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs and how it applies to business and job seekers. (23:00) – Why James and his most viral post matter and resonate with listeners. (24:08) – Advice for recently laid-off workers. (24:34) – The 90-minute rule for job seekers. (24:38) – Don’t forget to practice gratitude. (25:05) – What got James through the dark times. (26:08) – The importance of finding your job search rhythm. (26:31) – The gift of time that comes with being laid off. (28:02) – Needs following a layoff are situational and change from day to day. (31:05) – James offers job seekers his best piece of advice. (31:51) – Job searches are marathons, not sprints. (34:13) – The power of community and tips on networking. Recruiting is No Joke Social Linkedin.com Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) About James HudsonJames Hudson offers expertise on building recruiting engines, and the global teams that run them in a wide range of environments. His superpower is process simplification, and he leverages technology to reduce friction in enterprise-wide systems, enabling recruiting teams, and hiring managers, helping them spend time on tasks that create the most value. His weekly column in Forbes centers on careers and leadership is a must-read and he also sits on several boards, offering key insights and advice. An avid traveler, he’s passionate about people and a vocal advocate of lifelong learning. James Hudson Social Linkedin.com TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 57: Recruiting Is No Joke: We're Back and Better Than Ever!
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Embarking on a job search journey can be a challenging and humbling experience, regardless of one's level of expertise. In the podcast "Recruiting is No Joke," listeners gain valuable insights to navigate through the complexities of the job market and secure the careers they deserve.In this episode, we revisit some of the most impactful moments from past episodes while sharing feedback from our audience. Join us as we reflect on key learnings and memorable discussions, aiming to equip listeners with the knowledge and tools needed for success in their career pursuits.Additionally, we'll provide a sneak peek into the exciting updates and enhancements planned for the podcast. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting your career journey, our goal is to empower you with the resources to seize opportunities and achieve your professional aspirations.In this episode: (1:02) – Joel goes deep about his followers and the direction of the podcast. (1:40) – The focus of the podcast moving forward is discussed. (2:30) – The guest format plan is revealed. (4:40) – The comments from the post are shared on-air. (5:14) – Advice for job seekers. It takes more than just applying. (5:41) – Randomly applying is not the way, apply for jobs that fit your skillset. (6:12) – Joel shares that recruiters were hardest hit by the slowed job market. (7:00) – Plenty of jobs, but the jobs don’t match the people according to Joel. (7:12) – Joel offers job seekers advice. (8:38) – Joel offers a sobering reality on today’s job market. (9:30) – The comments from video #2 are discussed. (10:43) – Joel encourages listeners to keep working on the road to finding a job. (10:50) – Apply, network, update your resume. (11:50) – Tools are great, but the resume will still need to work for you. (12:15) – Joel mentions what he looks for in an applicant’s job history. (12:45) – The things applicants should emphasize on their resumes. (13:52) – Focus on accomplishments, not responsibilities. (14:44) – Joel shares insights from a good friend who also happens to be a peer. (16:50) – Joel gives his take on what comes next. (17:10) – AI and Automation led to layoffs, but now we’re in growth mode. (17:25) – The election will tell the hiring story once we know which way it goes. (18:20) – Joel discusses his job seeker poll results. (19:10) – Joel encourages listeners to participate in his poll. (20:07) – Closing thoughts from Joel on shows to come. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.Relevant Links LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 56: The one and only Tim Sackett
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If you don't know Tim, who are you? So looking forward to hosting this chat and learning about Tim's background, story, and thoughts on everything recruiting-related. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 55: TA week - a great recruiting conference Kara Mignanelli TA Week
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Welcome to a new Episode of Recruiting is No Joke, a podcast and liveshow dedicated to the TA industry. This week I welcome Kara Mignanelii. Kara serves as SVP of People and General Counsel for the Global Strategic Management Institute (GSMI), a leader in professional educational events and industry trade shows. In her role, Kara oversees multiple core functions of the business, including human resources, event production, and legal compliance. She has contributed to the growth of GSMI from corporate formation in 2008 to the creation, execution, and acquisition of industry-leading events and trade shows over the last decade. In 2011, Kara created one of the industry's leading talent acquisition events, the Social Recruiting Strategies Conference, which is currently part of Talent Acquisition Week, along with the Employer Brand Strategies Conference and the Talent Sourcing Strategies Summit. Kara is the Co-founder of Mignanelli Winery, a family-owned boutique producer focused on premium Pinot Noir with fruit sourced from Anderson Valley, Santa Cruz Mountains, and Santa Lucia Highlands. www.mignanelliwinery.com Kara is a proud alumnus of Rutgers University and Golden Gate University School of Law. She resides in San Diego with her husband and two energetic boys. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 54: The impact networking team - Tech recruitment in the future
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Welcome to Recruiting is no joke a live stream and podcast dedicated to the recruitment industry! This week I am joined by the Impact Networking recruitment team - Joe Skurski and Michael Borland: We will be discussing how to elevate the candidate experience, attract talent against the big-name brands and how they are using AI and new tech in their recruitment process. As always drop by and say hi! Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 53: Amit Parmer Employer branding and social media content
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Welcome to Recruiting is no Joke a podcast for the recruitment industry. This week I am joined by Amit Parmer founder of Cliqify - We are chatting social media content for recruiters. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 52: How to create an internal agency Meghan Immordino
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Welcome to Recruiting is no Joke a podcast for the recruitment industry. This week I am joined by Meghan (Martinez) Immordino Sr. Director of Talent at MediaBrands. A well known advertising company based in New York. Join us as we discuss her journey in recruitment, Current market trends, How her team is leveraging technology and, Her predictions for 2024! Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 51: The true Agency Legend Danny Cahill
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Welcome to Recruiting is No Joke, a podcast for the recruitment industry. Today I'm excited to chat with Danny Cahill - Who has spend 20+ years owning and buildingHobson Associates - One of the nation's largest privately held search firms. He also runs, According to danny is the largest online coaching system in the staffing industry. Danny is a winner of the Industry's Highest Honor, The NAPS Lifetime Achievement Award He's a Best-selling author. with Harper's Rules that won The Axiom Award for Business Fiction His latest book, an intensely personal memoir, Aging Disgracefully, is in bookstores and on Kindle and has reached Amazon best-seller status Danny is also an Award winning Playwright with Off Broadway credentials Join as we discuss Agency recruiting: What makes a good agency recruiter, how can agency recruiters adapt in tough markets and hear his perspective on what 2024 will bring us. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 50: RPO ABC's with Tim Farrelly
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With over 20 years of experience in the tech recruiting industry, Tim Farrelly co-leads the Coit Group. This Hudson RPO company specializes in building high-impact teams for the world's most influential and beloved tech brands. As a global leader in recruitment process outsourcing (RPO), COIT offers cutting-edge talent solutions and consulting to early-stage, mid-market, and Fortune 500 companies across the tech sector. Tim's mission is to fuel high-velocity growth and success for their clients, leveraging networks and know-how to bring them top performers in engineering, sales, product management, marketing, operations, and other in-demand roles. Coit values hustle, honesty, transparency, client satisfaction, and fun, and partners with clients as a dedicated extension of their team. Feel free to join in and ask Tim questions about the agency market and RPO process. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 49: How to build relationships the right way with Dan Lockhart
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This week on Recruiting is no Joke, I'm joined by Dan Lockhart Head of Technical and Product Recruiting at Event store. Dan has many years of experience as a talent leader, speaker, and writer. We will dive into his background, and his thoughts on the industry and discuss his balance between job-seeking, running a business, and surviving in the TA space. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 48: When recruiting moves you - Jennifer Kusch
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Welcome to Recruiting is no joke a live show for recruiters! This week I welcom Jennifer Kusch: Jen Kusch serves as the Head of Talent Acquisition for GCC & Pakistan at ENGIE, drawing on over two decades of HR Management expertise. Based in Dubai, she spearheads the recruitment strategies and initiatives across the GCC and Pakistan, ensuring the acquisition of top-tier talent that aligns with ENGIE's vision and goals. Before joining ENGIE in January 2022, Jennifer carved out a successful career pathencompassing roles such as HR Business Partner, Corporate Trainer, University Relations and Intern Manager, and Senior Recruiting Manager. Her recruitment prowessis evidenced by the nearly 1,000 employees she has personally brought on board,ranging from long-haul truck drivers to high-ranking C-suite executives. Jennifer has a Masters in Human Resource Management from Keller Graduate School, Phoenix, and a Bachelors in Psychology from Brigham Young University, Provo. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 47: The high level job search Michael Kascsak
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Welcome to Recruiting is NO joke - A live show dedicated to the Recruiter FAM! This week I'm joined by Michael Kascsak. Michael Kascsak is a 20+ year veteran of the Talent Acquisition industry. He has led Recruitment organizations for such companies as BofA, Capital One, CBRE, PayPal and Google. During his tenure Michael has implemented a wide scale of HR Technology and Resource Management strategies. Along with this, his dedication and top priority is the development and growth of his teammates and business partners. Michael’s leadership style is to create an environment that allows for everyone to bring their authentic self to work and to always be learning from each-other. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 46: A fresh take on Hiring and recruitment with Yasar Ahmad
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Welcome to this week's episode of Recruiting is no Joke: Currently the Global Vice President of Talent, Mobility and Rewards at HelloFresh. Previously, Global Head of Talent Acquisition at Zalando focussed on Technology Hiring and prior to that the Director and Head of Strategic Hiring at Wipro and Wipro Digital. In addition to currently a RL100 Core Member & TTC Community Manager. An accomplished people leader with experience in various HR roles, with a passion for Talent Acquisition, Talent Management, Inclusion and Diversity, Mobility, Rewards and learning & development and employers branding. Across my career, I have been strategic in embracing digital innovation and automation to transform organisations HR / People functions. From Talent Acquisition processes, Global Mobility, D&I Strategies to early careers for Graduates and Interns. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 45: The Agency tech perspective with Joe Aburdene
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This week I welcome Joe Aburdene, Sr. Director of Managed Services from Findem AI: Joe has a 20-year career in the Recruiting space: - 14 years at Aerotek/Allegis - 9 years of staffing/services sales - 5 years in an operations and strategy role - 4 years in tech-enabled sourcing solutions leadership - 1 year of RPO sales - Responsible for delivering results across a wide variety of industries and skills nationally and globally Looking forward to hearing about his journey and what he is up to in the industry. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 44: The Employer branding masterclass Riley Stefano
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On this week's Recruiting Is No Joke Show: I'm meeting with Riley Stefano She's currently with Datadog leading the Employer Brand Marketing Team. She's successfully tracked a 120% increase in the volume of inbound applicants. Prior to Datadog, she was at Hubspot working on employer brand content. I'm really excited to have this in-depth conversation with Riley and dig into the Employer brand. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 43: The best recruitment live event - Recfest with Jamie Leonard
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Jamie Leonard had a vision for a new refreshing conference for recruitment and TA professionals...We are going to hear how RecFest came to fruition.Join us Friday as we chat about the most exciting recruiter event, landing in the US in Nashville next week.Special shout out to Metaview the best sponsor ever! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 42: When you can't recruit on Linkedin, with Kirk Kimball
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On this week's show Recruiting Is No Joke Show:I meet with Kirk Kimball, he's worked for a ton of recognizable brands like Conagra and Danone. He now leads HR and TA at Barkbus a really cool LA based startup that does mobile pet grooming.Most of his recruiting isn't done on Linkedin, so if you're looking for creative sourcing strategies like Instagram and Facebook you won't want to miss this episode.Add this event to your calendar so you can catch it liveSpecial thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show:Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you.See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 41: What is people Analytics and why does it matter with Konstantin Tskhay
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People analytics is a growing practice among companies but very few truly understand it, myself included.From headcount planning to understand the performance of your team there's a lot to cover.Tune into Wednesday's episode of Recruiting is No Joke where I'll be talking with Konstantin Tskhay, PHD to hear how he is working with companies on this very thing.We will be discussing everything people analytics!Add this event to your calendar so you can catch it live.Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show:Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you.See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 40: Why candidate experience actually matters in 2023 Kyle Connors
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Candidate Experience has been getting more attention in the last few years and rightly so.With all the attention there are now companies that are being to help with this issue.From Ghosting to poor feedback the issues are clear.Well, tune into Wednesday's episode of Recruiting is No Joke where I'll be talking with Kyle Connors CEO and Co-founder of Candidate.FYIWe will be discussing the current state of candidate experience and what he's doing to change it for the better!Add this event to your calendar so you can catch it live.Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show:Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you.See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 39: The employer branding round circle
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Welcome to Recruiting is No Joke, a live show dedicated to the recruitment industry. Today's guests are Alex Her, Cali O'Rourke, and James Ellis Today the format of the show will be a round table hosted by myself. We will be talking about employer branding - What is it, how does it work, and where is it going...Thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show. Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you.See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 38: New Sponsor - AI and Recruiting with Siadhal Magos
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Welcome to a new ERA of Recruiting is No Joke - We've got a brand new sponsor @metaview and I'm delighted to be hosting the CEO on our first episode as partners.Siadhal is the co-founder and CEO of Metaview, the AI-powered interview note-taker loved by recruiters at companies like Brex, Robinhood, Quora, and Genentech. Prior to founding Metaview in 2018, he was a Product leader at Uber.Massive Thanks to Metaview for partnering with the Recruiting is no Joke podcast and Realest Recruiter brand. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 37: Candidate Experience matters - Darren Bush
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Welcome to Recruiting is No Joke, a live show dedicated to the recruitment industry. Today's guest is Darren Bush - As the Head of TA for GFGO at Ericsson, he brings over two decades of extensive experience in the recruitment landscape. Before Ericsson, he worked in various industries, starting his career in an agency for Michael Page and later moving to Project Management teams where he implemented RPO and VMS solutions. For the past four years, has focused on Talent Acquisition, aiming to bring innovation and change to the recruitment sector. I am an active voice on LinkedIn, discussing Recruitment technology and challenging outdated hiring practices.. Thanks to BrightHire.com for sponsoring the show. BrightHire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 36: Social media for recruiters Solo episode Joel Lalgee
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Solo episode this week! I talk about recruitment content, social media strategy and answer questions from the audience.Thanks to BrightHire com for sponsoring the show. BrightHire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 35: Leading a Global Tech recruitment team straight from the Agency world. James Lafferty
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James has been in the TA space since 2007. He started in the Agency space and currently works for Epicor as the Global VP of Talent. I'm looking forward to catching up and learning about his journey and thoughts on the current market. Thanks to BrightHire com for sponsoring the show. BrightHire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 34: From running a profitable Agency to head of talent at a start up - Krista Tan
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Krista Scarborough Tan has been in the TA space since 2008. She started in the Agency space and grew to the Head of Talent operations managing 40 Million in P&L. She then moved into an internal recruitment role and continues to coach and lead talent strategy at various startups. I'm looking forward to catching up and learning about her journey and her thoughts on the current market. Thanks to BrightHire com for sponsoring the show. BrightHire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 33: Katie Conti - From Management Consulting to Internal TA Leader
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Welcome back to another episode of Recruiting is no Joke - This week I am super excited to chat with Katie Conti - VP of TA at Healthedge a digital transformation company in the healthcare space. Katie has a strong resource and consulting background that has helped her immensely in transforming the TA team. I'm excited to hear about her transition into talent acquisition to hear her perspective on how teams can operate in a lean and efficient manner. Thanks to BrightHire com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 32: Video in the recruiting process - Job pixel and Omar Khateeb
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Welcome to Recruiting is No Joke, a live show dedicated to the recruitment industry. Today's guest is Omar Khateeb founder of JobPixel. Job Pixel is an easy-to-use video branding platform that empowers brands to collect, distribute, and engage the world with authentic video. Companies can easily request videos from their employees, customers, or even job candidates. Whether you want to engage your customers, attract talent, or just have an easy way to collect and leverage video for your organization, JobPixel is making video accessible to companies. Thanks to BrightHire com for sponsoring the show. BrightHire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 31: Kelly Burlage - How to build a recruitment engine responsible for thousands of hires
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Kelly Burlage is the VP of Talent Acquisition at Lineage Logistics. Kelly manages a large global team of recruiters at all levels. She is a passionate leader and brings a wealth of knowledge to her team. Join us as we discuss Kelly's journey and challenges and get her insights on the future of TA. Please drop by and say hi!!! (Please don't ask about open jobs, DM me for that) Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Thanks to our newest Sponsor Teal: Teal is an all-in-one job search platform that provides job seekers with an integrated Resume Builder, Job Tracker, LinkedIn Optimization, Contact Management, and many more tools—including GPT-powered AI functionality!—to run an effective job search. Over 150,000+ people have trusted Teal to land their next job. Install their Chrome extension and get started for free at www.tealhq.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 30: Destiny Quinn - A true leader in the TA space, how to build an excellent team
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Destiny Quinn is currently leading the Talent Acquisition department at Material Bank - (no they aren't a bank) by providing situational coaching, and managing all aspects of delivery to ensure individual and team goals align with broader HR and overall company strategies and goals. Destiny has both agency and internal experience and is a wealth of knowledge. I can't wait to reconnect and chat about everything TA! Please drop by and say hi!!! (Please don't ask about open jobs, DM me for that) Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Thanks to our newest Sponsor Teal: Teal is an all-in-one job search platform that provides job seekers with an integrated Resume Builder, Job Tracker, LinkedIn Optimization, Contact Management, and many more tools—including GPT-powered AI functionality!—to run an effective job search. Over 150,000+ people have trusted Teal to land their next job. Install their Chrome extension and get started for free at www.tealhq.com.Join us as we discuss his journey and challenges and get his insights on the future of TA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 29: Andrew Lewis - From Internal to external, building teams the right way
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Andrew Lewis is the head of Talent Acquisition at Higg. He has almost a decade of recruitment experience and has worked inhouse and agency. He is also a prolific poster on Linkedin where he shares his insights on Talent. Join us as we discuss his journey and challenges and get his insights on the future of TA. Please drop by and say hi!!! (Please don't ask about open jobs, DM me for that) Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Thanks to our newest Sponsor Teal: Teal is an all-in-one job search platform that provides job seekers with an integrated Resume Builder, Job Tracker, LinkedIn Optimization, Contact Management, and many more tools—including GPT-powered AI functionality!—to run an effective job search. Over 150,000+ people have trusted Teal to land their next job. Install their Chrome extension and get started for free at www.tealhq.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 28: A masterclass on fractional HR work
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With 20+ years of Executive experience in People Strategy and HR, Barbie is not your typical CHRO. She's taken her experience and translated it into building a thriving business supporting others who are doing the same. As a Fractional CHRO/CPO, She helps small to mid-sized organizations during times of transition and transformation to build actionable and sustainable People Strategies that drive business goals. Barbie has almost 50k followers on Linkedin and creates great content and valuable insights that are authentic. Please drop by and say hi!!! Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Thanks to our newest Sponsor Teal: Teal is an all-in-one job search platform that provides job seekers with an integrated Resume Builder, Job Tracker, LinkedIn Optimization, Contact Management, and many more tools—including GPT-powered AI functionality!—to run an effective job search. Over 150,000+ people have trusted Teal to land their next job. Install their Chrome extension and get started for free at www.tealhq.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 27: Christine Redd - The ups and downs of recruiting life
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Welcome to Recruiting is no joke - a podcast for TA and HR professionals. This week I am with Christine Redd - VP Talent at AlertMedia Christine is a dynamic, agile HR leader with a passion for match-making people to careers. With a strong background in high-growth, fast-paced SaaS environments, coupled with various facets of Human Resources experience, she has a unique advantage when it comes to leading People teams....not only being creative, proactive, and urgent but also being highly organized and data-driven. She has had the pleasure of successfully recruiting top talent for start-ups, large tech giants, and everything in between. The ultimate candidate and employee experience is my specialty. As always say Hi and let us know what questions you have. Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Thanks to our newest Sponsor Teal: Teal is an all-in-one job search platform that provides job seekers with an integrated Resume Builder, Job Tracker, LinkedIn Optimization, Contact Management, and many more tools—including GPT-powered AI functionality!—to run an effective job search. Over 150,000+ people have trusted Teal to land their next job. Install their Chrome extension and get started for free at www.tealhq.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 26: Leah Daniels why the application process is usually so terrible.
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Welcome to Recruiting is no joke - a podcast for TA and HR professionals. This week I am with Leah Daniels Leah’s experience in the Talent Acquisition space spans the recruiting funnel from top to bottom. Most recently, Leah was an executive with the programmatic job ad platform Appcast, where she originally began as the VP of Business Development and Alliances and ultimately became the GM of SaaS operations where she oversaw strategy and key software growth. Prior to joining Appcast, Leah was the Director of Product Strategy at Monster in the Software Solutions group. Earlier in her career, Leah also held the position of Director of Global Alliances and Business Development with Bullhorn. Leah is a Boston University Alum where she graduated with a degree in Psychology an Sociology. Leah’s position as a leader in the industry began with several positions she held at ZoomInfo working with large enterprises seeking hard to find talent and later was granted a patent on detecting early behavior of candidates in social media. As always say Hi and let us know what questions you have. Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 25: Community Recruiting with Joy Banfield.
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Welcome to Recruiting is no joke - a podcast for TA and HR professionals. This week I'm with Joy Banfield Vp of Talent at Designity - an on-demand marketing company. Joy is a strategic people operations leader who earns her seat at the table by going beyond "traditional HR." As an experienced Chief of Staff and true Organizational Generalist, she brings a strategic mindset - tying company success to employee experience and engagement. As Vice President of People at Designity, she leads Talent Acquisition, People Operations, and Employee Engagement initiatives. With a heavy focus on building, nurturing, and retaining top talent. She's an HR Department of one, and focused on building scalable hiring systems that will support the projected growth of the organization. Joy creates great content and is a leader that brings a wealth of experience. Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 24: High volume, High value recruiting David Jaramillo
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This week I'm with David Jaramillo.From agency to in-house corporate to RPO recruiting with experience in Hospitality, Retail Services, Financial Services, IT, Real Estate, and Healthcare--David has a rich background in TA!David has been developing and evaluating strategies in the areas of sourcing, analytics, branding, and new technologies used by Talent Acquisition to source and recruit the best.As Recruiting leader he has overseen teams recruiting in IT, HR, Finance, Accounting, Decision Science, Sales, Collections, Marketing, Internal Controls, Compliance, Physicians, Real Estate/Property Management, and University Relations.Remember to say hi and have questions ready!Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 23: Attracting talent by having fun and crushing your goals. Deanna Brousseau
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This week I'm with Deanna Brousseau Director of Talent Acquisition at AltaML an AI startup based in Alberta.Deanna is an empathetic Talent Acquisition that advocates for an equitable, elevated, and fun recruitment experience in the candidate journey. She's dedicated to attracting, retaining, and elevating incredible humans that are excited about the AI industry.Deanna has been in the space for the past decade and brings a wealth of knowledge. Join us for this live show and always please drop by and say hi, and ask questions, we will try and get to as many as possible.Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 22: Leading by example Donald Knight
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Donald Knight is the CPO at Greenhouse Software. He leads with a people-first mentality hoping to unlock the potential of Greenhouse talent globally. With a laser focus on the connection between people and the processes that serve them, Donald and his team create proximity by building bridges focusing on enhanced experiences that nurture culture and develop people. He is responsible for providing global strategy and leadership in developing, overseeing, and administering people programs. Before Greenhouse, Donald served as Senior Vice President of Global Talent for Edelman, where he helped shape the HR brand as a proactive, insightful, and collaborative solution provider. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 21: Recruiting at a high level - Erin Peterson
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Erin McDermott Peterson previously led Talent Acquisition and RPO for some of the most successful organizations in the world including Accenture, Aon Hewitt, and Amazon. Having led TA teams in Europe, (with 3 years as an ex-pat in Frankfurt, Germany) as well as India, and North America, and led process improvement projects with multiple SMB companies as a consultant with PeopleResults, she now translates her unique global experience as Head of Talent for Great Hill Partners, a Boston based Private Equity firm. Erin oversees talent acquisition for the firm and has the privilege of working with their 39 growth-stage portfolio companies as they scale.Erin has a degree in Psychology from Concordia College in Minnesota and is a frequent speaker and writer on talent and career topics. She’s the founder and host of “Big Fish in the Talent Pool”, the Podcast for Talent Leaders. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 20: Video is the recruiting future
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Welcome to another episode of recruiting is no joke - a podcast for TA and HR professionals.This week I'm excited to chat with Jennifer Paxton (her/hers) Co-founder of Jamyr, and former VP of people at Smile and Privy!Jen has over a decade of experience in the industry in Agency and in-house roles. She has led global teams and is now building a company that is focused on something extremely close to my heart - Video content.Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 19: How the world of work is changing
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Welcome to another episode of recruiting is no joke - a podcast for TA and HR professionals.This week I'm excited to chat with Todd Raphael a recruitment content legend who is currently working with Skyhive an exciting HR tech company.Todd has a unique perspective on the recruitment industry and market and has been involved in marketing, business development, and events.He spent 14 years with ERE and led all the media and events. He is extremely well-known and connected in the TA space and I'm honored to have him as a guest.Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 18: Remote work can work when you are smart
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Happy 2023! After a short break, we are back with another Live episode of Recruiting is no joke. This week I'm excited to chat with Vanesa Cotlar, MBA Cotlar, VP of People & Culture at PolicyMe a Series A funded insurance company.Vanesa has a deep background that includes many years as a consultant to C-Level and Senior executives on corporate and business strategy.She has been leading the people function, for the past 18 months, at PolicyMe and is an avid content creator on Linkedin always producing highly valuable content for the HR community.Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 17: Humble and in touch with the people
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Welcome to Episode 17 of the Recruiting is no Joke podcast -This week I welcome Melanie Naranjo VP of People at Ethena. Melanie has been in the talent space since 2015 and has quickly risen to a high level. She is now the VP of People at Ethena a compliance training platform.Join us as we discuss how she got started in the people space and her journey into leadership.Thanks to Brighthire.com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 16: Growing in your recruiting Kraft
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This week I welcome Mark Smith Global head of TA at Kraft. Mark has operated as a Talent Leader for over 20 years and has worked with some huge companies including Randstad, Caterpillar, Amazon, SC Johnson, and The Kraft Heinz Company. Mark is a true leader and I'm honored to get 30 minutes with him today.Join us as we discuss how got started in recruiting, his journey into leadership, his biggest challenges, and even dive into his predictions for the 2023 market.Thanks to Brighthire . com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 15: Building community with Blind - Peter Ludden
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Today I'm joined by Petter Ludden, the Director of recruiting for Blind a tech community where professionals share honest insights anonymously.Join us as we chat about the current market, what candidates are saying about making moves, and of course his own journey into recruiting and techThanks to our sponsor BrightHire. com, is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Go to Brighthire . com and tell them Joel sent you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 14: How to manager 30,000 thousand hires in a year! Jane Curran from JLL breaks it down for us!
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Welcome to Recruiting is no Joke Episode 14A live show and podcast for recruiters and TA leaders.There are two reasons, I am really excited about today's show.We have Jane Curran - Global Head of Talent Acquisition at JLL. Jane leads a team of 300 TA pros that fills 30,000 positions a year.She's been in recruiting since 1999 and previously worked with Accenture and Kohl's. I'm stoked to have this time to learn and hear her story!Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 13: How can marketing and recruiting work together - Mackenzie and Austin from Arc talk about inbound recruitment
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Today I am excited to discuss a topic close to my heart.Recruitment marketing - I'm joined by Mackenzie Moore (People and Talent leader) and Austin Beveridge (Head of Marketing) from Arc Technologies a full-service finance platform for SaaS, a Series A funded start-up.We will discuss how they've been partnering together to increase top-of-funnel candidate interest in the company. Is this scalable?What have the results been?How can you apply this to your own TA team?We will also hear their stories and how they Fell into recruiting!Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 12: From Netflix to no-name, Join us as Scott talks about what it's like going from a household brandname like Netflix to a startup like Gordion
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Recruiting is no joke Episode 12 -Scott Schefferstein started recruiting 10 years ago at a boutique agency and since has worked at companies like GE Digital and Netflix.He now runs talent at a Series-A software company that is helping some of the world's leading travel organizations increase revenue.We will discuss Scotts time a Netflix, his career trajectory, and the differences between working at a worldwide known brand and a start-up!Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 11: The Highs and lows, but mainly highs of cannabis recruiting and the recruitment market with Laura Gassman
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Recruiting is no Joke - Episode 11 With Laura Gassman Director of Talent at 1906 Laura has a strong agency and corporate recruitment background and currently leads talent at a cannabis startup in Denver.Join us today as we discuss -How she got started in recruitment,The biggest challenges her team is facing,How do you recruit in a start-up,How do you recruit during economic uncertainty...And soooo much more.Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 10: The Refine Labs team - Jessica and team break down how they run talent and deal with layoffs.
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Welcome to episode 10 of Recruiting is no joke podcastI am pumped to be joined by Jessica Williams, MIPH, HRPM, SHRL, CMHR, SPHR, SHRM-SCP Williams and Kim Schell from Refine Labs. Refine labs are all over Linkedin. Jessica is no different, she is leading by example and has some of the most insightful content I've seen. Kim has also had a few viral posts - A layoff post comes to mind 😉Join us as we discuss their journies into recruiting,How content helps with candidate flow, DEI and what they are doing from the front lines and much much more!Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 9: Getting tech talent back to the office in Boston - Petar and Team discuss the nuances of attracting top talent back to the office
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Petar Petrov has been in recruiting for coming up to 10 years. He's worked at a number of start-ups as both a tech recruiter and now runs talent at VideaHealth a Boston-based health Series-A startup.Everyone wants to work in the start-up and tech world but I'm not sure if most really know what it's like.Join us as we discuss what it's like to recruit when you don't have a massive brand. We will hear his story as well as discuss trends and challenges he is seeing with talent.Thanks to Natalie Muchnick for joining us too!Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 8: Leading recruiting and tips on how to influence real DEI change - Clarisce Tolston shares her wisdom
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This week I am honored to be joined by Clarisce Tolston - PHR AIRS Tolston - Head of TA at HealthTrackRx the nations leading PCR-based infectious disease laboratory.Clarisce leads the talent strategy as well as DEI initiatives. She has been in recruiting since 2008 and spent 5 years contracting for large companies like Microsoft, Direct TV, and Lexus. I am excited to discuss her story and hear her thoughts on DEI in recruiting and discuss where we still need to improve. Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 7: How to get a 95% Rate acceptance from Candidates - Bonnie from Zapier
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Today I am joined by Bonnie Dilber - Recruiting Manager at ZapierNot only is Bonnie leading recruitment strategy at Zapier, but she is also an avid poster on Linkedin and is not afraid to discuss hard-hitting topics.She has over 50,000 followers and for good reason - She gives advice to job seekers, takes on remote work life, and shares insights into Culture and DEI.Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 6: What's life at Twitter really like - Brian Fink the legend of sourcing
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Welcome to Episode 6 of Recruiting is no JokeI'm honored to have The one and only Brian Fink with me today -Currently the Global Technical Sourcing Manager at Twitter, in the past he's worked with Apple, RentPath, and AWS.On top of this Brian is a great follow on Linkedin for recruiters, he posts helpful and encouraging content and is a great representation of who he is in real life. (We chatted last Friday and I came away with actionable advice I've been using)Brian is a true recruiting leader and influencer and I'm super happy we get a chance to chat again Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 5: Contracting your skills as a recruitment leader
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This week's guest is Adam Rosenfield -Adam is an experienced SaaS recruiter who specializes in scaling talent acquisition for seed stage to Series D tech companies.His accomplishments include scaling a global team 7x, building out our diversity and inclusion plans, and working to earn a US "Best Places to Work" honor in 2022.Adam has had agency and internal experience over the past decade and brings a ton of value.Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 4: Leading recruitment and DEI at a start up
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I am delighted to have Britteny Soto, Director of Talent Acquisition, Justice Equity Diversity, and Inclusion & Enablement for Encamp.Join us as we discuss her journey to her current position,What TA struggles she's facing,What she cares about most in her role,And why she loves what she does!Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 3: Life at Barstool, leading talent at your dream company
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Super excited for Episode 3 of Recruiting is no Joke.Join Nick Martuscelli Talent Director from Barstool SportsWe will be hearing about:His journey to his current role,Life as a talent Director,His biggest Challenges,How he is using his brand to boost recruiting andSo much more.Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 2: Leading recruitment at a Startup, the truth behind the hype
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Welcome to Episode #2 of Recruiting is no joke.This week's guest Adam Walters heads up recruiting for Polygon.io a series A funded fintech start-up!Join us for this afternoon session where we'll hear what start-up recruiting life is really like and get his take on how to attract top talent.Adam has a strong background in agency recruitment focusing on tech startups, then we had an offer he couldn't refuse, heading up talent at a fintech startup.Here is his story.Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices