By HR for HR

Jocelyn King, Virgil HR

Hosted by Jocelyn King, founder and CEO of VirgilHR, this series brings together forward-thinking HR and talent leaders for candid conversations about the realities of modern people operations. Each episode cuts through complexity and focuses on practical, usable insights across recruiting and performance management, compliance, AI, leadership, and the changing employee experience. Jocelyn’s grounded, thoughtful approach invites guests to share what’s really working in their organizations and the lessons learned along the way, giving HR professionals clear guidance they can apply immediately. Whether the topic is technology, culture, or strategy, these conversations spotlight the ideas shaping the future of work.

Episodes

#3 - Jessica Miller-Merrell: The Manager Training Gap No One Talks About

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Jessica Miller-Merrell joins us from HR Tech 2025 for a fast-moving, highly practical discussion about how HR leaders can get tech-ready in a world where AI, compliance demands, and integrations are evolving faster than most teams can keep up. Jessica shares how HR pros should approach learning new tech, the right questions to ask vendors, and the biggest mistakes she sees during vetting and implementation. She also breaks down how to build change-management muscles, why HR teams should lean on their IT partners early, and how performance management completely shifted after COVID exposed major gaps in communication and coaching. From training managers effectively to proving ROI for people programs, Jessica provides clear, actionable guidance that every HR leader, especially those in departments of one, can put into practice immediately. Find out more about Jessica Miller-Merrell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmillermerrell/ Hosted by Jocelyn King, founder and CEO of VirgilHR. VirgilHR provides instant, trusted answers to HR compliance questions—helping teams navigate federal, state, and local employment laws with accuracy and ease. To learn more, visit www.virgilhr.com and follow Jocelyn on LinkedIn for ongoing guidance and industry updates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 min12/18/2025

#2 - Katrina Kibben: Why Job Descriptions Still Haven’t Evolved

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Live from HR Tech 2025, Katrina Kibben brings their signature clarity and storytelling to a conversation about employer brand, EVP development, and the linguistic data that reveals what employees actually value. Katrina explains why every strong EVP starts with deep listening, not leadership soundbites, and how interviewing people across levels produces the most accurate, actionable picture of company culture. The conversation moves into the surprising history of job postings, what truly makes a compelling job description today, and how scope, scale, and impact matter far more than tired “years of experience” clichés. Katrina also shares lessons from their book The Bounce Back Factor, shaped by three years of running a business from a van, and how leaders can navigate uncertainty with more confidence and humanity. It’s a refreshing, insightful look at building clarity into your recruiting process and using language as a strategic asset. Find out more about Katrina Kibben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katrinakibben/ Hosted by Jocelyn King, founder and CEO of VirgilHR. VirgilHR provides instant, trusted answers to HR compliance questions—helping teams navigate federal, state, and local employment laws with accuracy and ease. To learn more, visit ⁠www.virgilhr.com⁠ and ⁠follow Jocelyn on LinkedIn⁠ for ongoing guidance and industry updates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

14 min12/11/2025

#1 - Christy Honeycutt: Why Your Recruiting Process Is Breaking (and How to Fix It)

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Recorded live at HR Tech 2025 in Las Vegas, this conversation with Christy Honeycutt dives into twenty years of hands-on talent expertise and breaks down exactly when an RPO model makes sense and when it doesn’t. Christy walks through the questions every TA leader should be prepared to answer before talking to a recruitment process outsourcing (RPO), the hidden ATS issues that quietly block candidates, and why “finding your voice” matters more than ever for HR leaders looking to influence the C-suite. She also opens up about her work as a meditation coach, how leaders can regulate themselves before showing up for their teams, and how simple, accessible wellness practices can transform employee experience. The episode rounds out with a grounded, candid look at buy-in, accountability, and how HR can shift perceptions from “soft” to “strategic” by driving real business outcomes. Find out more about Christy Honeycutt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christyhoneycutt/ and via her website: https://www.christyhoneycutt.com/ Hosted by Jocelyn King, founder and CEO of VirgilHR. VirgilHR provides instant, trusted answers to HR compliance questions—helping teams navigate federal, state, and local employment laws with accuracy and ease. To learn more, visit www.virgilhr.com and follow Jocelyn on LinkedIn for ongoing guidance and industry updates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 min12/4/2025